From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 20:01:50 +0300 Message-ID: <2b21f291-31cd-2291-eabf-09b7c54f0c2a@yandex.ru> References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <550fa43f-30ef-14f3-dd19-dd97a985a04e@yandex.ru> <95bddb34-2c3f-eff5-220f-16b726d97a69@yandex.ru> <83o8qubjma.fsf@gnu.org> <50fcb66f-56ca-8487-f2ab-a098d3bc08d4@yandex.ru> <83zhae9ztf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="79125"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, pcr910303@icloud.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 19:02:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYBpB-000KQx-7q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:02:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46674 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYBpA-00070A-80 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYBoS-0006TC-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]:54443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYBoR-0007n4-P8; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id h4so18816229wmb.4; Mon, 11 May 2020 10:01:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q9KzMyGXne26/yEhyKz3nwopIs8l2u4FXoI1HD+GBQU=; b=nxbk36uGdWG0aEeSxaaiPXP/VJJ+sjHHFPLrAWJNw14MZZ8pFniNbFU5d/UB1lzzjK StzEL7dNbKw55Jb+H9O552MfwTknavUgs9SQHYb+dEEbzBtLUyAku5/xS75KXYha/3ia 0TLmgpIRNk+lESf9eQf8umsL4Ltfh88t35ydRtZ4EnEnv/3XTv2hAiYjzUc+hoo1GCWy 9yDEVwZVb/GZSm8FnbflLAXaYxDkcz1MgAJR6BuyTNwf61obT8aQPWkGP9B3V0ApZK4m I1S2v8QOwGFvxzlPf1hZSKEJCPRRBt+7X9AaFSGfohnekojFg0z7HYHiwiRguSvHoSSe RYOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q9KzMyGXne26/yEhyKz3nwopIs8l2u4FXoI1HD+GBQU=; b=H3tWyMHHYqLU5G4mpsJKd3GP1UjitEy0jvKPDVtU8xTfP/wPDNrkl9NtKbbCgtFodw KeUWEp/KGlWooFgpgZLq09gU5mLwJmfMpOfTu77NMHULAw1dRfjHzyHy9kYvYflHJ4He PldUuctky3E0D6GxxOaIvVlglpz8riEuooHm/flLlF7R9vjejjN3ovHI2hMg6jPkqey4 AGgl9C8PXQ7Gyn0AYduZz2fUXzfHBtQyA/KBQM0ojX4cWpUQp83Y0CYfxCoPgt4NGJGp 7RUms9DPwq8DwCFGFz1H7DS7/1O/udn4fKWaza8/1qotRMYgmh7FW5LNVPByvidgphq0 E9aQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYljXV8zcZQw2LFj9eWbWY4pRNBYcWIksb/YmUdWTffJbb6vq16 7eFi6l9SHaJkzVHwE/aRluE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLGiFc7MClILRiP54iiTIWoFf2ytl43Mx5NdX29uO/fp/wsbT9hVZRypqmfcmYJ4yjHC6YfnA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:2348:: with SMTP id j69mr16241057wmj.11.1589216513701; Mon, 11 May 2020 10:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z22sm26632075wma.20.2020.05.11.10.01.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 May 2020 10:01:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83zhae9ztf.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32b; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249830 Archived-At: On 11.05.2020 19:55, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > In any case, adding to ELPA packages just so we could let people > install them with absolutely no customization sounds like a tail > wagging the dog to me. I don't understand this. Surely we want people to be able to edit more file formats out-of-the-box, for instance.