From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Sainty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PGTK-related misconceptions Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 15:29:28 +1200 Message-ID: <2a3a06b390fceb0badf0e4d8aabc34a6@webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <87lew7qdtj.fsf@yahoo.com> <877d7lmmz9.fsf@gmail.com> <8999b324ff34f311f829644947337beb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87mtghw4xz.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8654"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Orcon Webmail Cc: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 20 05:30:28 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nh12y-00023n-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 05:30:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40906 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh12w-0007ua-Q6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2022 23:30:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh128-0007FA-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2022 23:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-4.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.59]:50355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh126-0000Me-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2022 23:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=44232 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-4.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh120-0005u8-MV; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 15:29:28 +1200 Original-Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 20 Apr 2022 15:29:28 +1200 In-Reply-To: <87mtghw4xz.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz X-GeoIP: -- Received-SPF: pass client-ip=60.234.4.59; envelope-from=psainty@orcon.net.nz; helo=smtp-4.orcon.net.nz X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288688 Archived-At: On 2022-04-20 01:58, Sean Whitton wrote: >> On 2022-04-19 21:10, Dirk-Jan C. Binnema wrote: >>> I regularly use both X and Wayland, and having to have two emacsen >>> (and remember to use the right one) just for that seems sub-optimal. >> >> I believe there's something called "X-Wayland" for running X programs >> under Wayland > > It's a compatibility layer, basically, and not a great one. I was > having various basic focus and clipboard problems when running Lucid > Emacs under Xwayland. Ah, ok. In that case I guess one really would prefer to install both builds, if using both Wayland and X at different times. I imagine one could mostly circumvent the "remember to use the right one" issue by automatically setting PATH based on which system you were using at that time, so that "emacs" was always going to be the correct emacs. -Phil