From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'martin rudalics'" <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 'grischka' <grishka@gmx.de>,
'Stefan Monnier' <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: The window-pub branch
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 09:43:27 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2E2DF95135DA4B8F9F96C1AEA1D6C606@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CFE6786.7010705@gmx.at>
> > > M-: (select-window (get-buffer-window "*scratch*" t))
...
> > A clear bug? Why?
>
> Because the doc-string of `select-window' says that "Most editing will
> apply to WINDOW's buffer" and that of `selected-window' says "The
> selected window is the window ... to which many commands apply".
And all of that is true. But you are not using only `select-window' here. You
are using `select-window' in the context of `M-:', that is, in the context of a
command.
Imagine if I told you that there was a bug in `select-window' just because
evaluating this sexp doesn't end up with buffer foo's window being selected:
(save-selected-window (select-window (get-buffer-window "foo")))
You would say I'm nuts: `select-window' does select foo's window, but then the
original window selection gets restored by `save-selected-window'.
M-: is like that. `select-window' _does_ select the window in your test case.
But M-: then restores the original window selection and frame focus.
And you can see this clearly with the example I gave: just use (progn
(select-window...) (insert "TEXT")).
When you use M-: you are not just evaluating a sexp. You are using a command
that evaluates a sexp and then restores the window selection. If you want to
test the behavior of `select-window' then don't bring other stuff into the mix
as well.
> Moreover the modeline of the *scratch* window indicates that
> the window is selected
Which it is. This is just further proof of that fact.
> (which is completely disconcerting when the two frames do
> not overlap) while input goes to the other frame.
No, input does not go to the other frame. Not during the evaluation of the sexp
given to M-:. It is only _after_ M-: is finished that further input goes to the
window that was originally selected.
Do the text inserting in the sexp passed to M-: and you will see that it goes
where you expect. Do the text inserting after M-: and it goes in the window
that was selected before (and after) M-:.
> The problem is within the interaction between Emacs and the window
> manager. It does not depend on M-:.
What problem? The fact that _after_ M-: the same window is selected as before
it? That behavior certainly _does_ depend on M-:.
You have not shown any bug in `select-window'. You've just gotten confused
because M-: does not only evaluate a sexp. Take M-: out of the equation and
then try to demonstrate the supposed `select-window' bug.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-07 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-18 17:54 The window-pub branch grischka
2010-11-18 18:48 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-18 21:29 ` grischka
2010-11-19 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-19 13:38 ` grischka
2010-11-19 14:44 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-19 16:45 ` grischka
2010-11-20 9:19 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-20 14:43 ` grischka
2010-11-20 18:03 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-20 21:15 ` grischka
2010-11-21 9:49 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-21 13:34 ` grischka
2010-11-21 17:51 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-21 20:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-22 9:40 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 11:17 ` grischka
2010-11-22 11:27 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 11:43 ` grischka
2010-11-22 14:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 16:18 ` grischka
2010-11-22 17:30 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 19:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 7:40 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-23 14:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 15:30 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-22 17:30 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-22 19:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 7:41 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-23 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 15:31 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-23 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-23 17:18 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-04 18:10 ` grischka
2010-12-05 11:44 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-05 20:27 ` grischka
2010-12-06 9:23 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-06 17:43 ` grischka
2010-12-06 19:41 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-06 22:43 ` grischka
2010-12-06 23:05 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 7:23 ` grischka
2010-12-07 7:16 ` grischka
2011-01-09 19:50 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-07 8:18 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-07 15:38 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 16:38 ` grischka
2010-12-07 17:11 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-07 16:57 ` martin rudalics
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2010-12-07 17:43 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-12-07 17:56 ` martin rudalics
2010-12-07 18:21 ` Drew Adams
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2010-11-14 12:51 ` The window-pub branch (was Re: bug#7381: 24.0.50; Provide a hook run when a window is selected) Štěpán Němec
2010-11-14 18:59 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-14 20:55 ` The window-pub branch Štěpán Němec
2010-11-15 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-15 12:14 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-15 13:42 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-15 15:44 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-15 17:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-15 19:46 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-16 16:56 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-16 21:13 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-11-17 8:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-17 12:05 ` Štěpán Němec
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