From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug Database? Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: <2A9F6575-C8C2-45E5-A54B-F97810831D31@gmail.com> References: <17717.20433.183356.106695@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161127079 23552 80.91.229.2 (17 Oct 2006 23:17:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 18 01:17:56 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZyBy-0004iG-CS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:17:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZyBx-0000nL-JV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GZyBi-0000hD-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:17:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GZyBh-0000f3-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZyBh-0000ee-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.188] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GZyBg-0003jO-Rn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.9.229.158] (helo=[10.5.5.200]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1GZyBf1Wny-0005fV; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:17:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <17717.20433.183356.106695@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Original-To: emacs- devel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:f3c9a04d49beab9fcce37ffcb55ebfb9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60846 Archived-At: On 17 Oct 2006, at 22:49, Nick Roberts wrote: > I'm quite sure if they all had to be fixed first > it would never get released. I use Emacs every day and I must say > I've not > encountered any of the bugs currently in FOR-RELEASE. For about 18 months, I've been releasing a downstream project with binary builds of patched and augmented GNU Emacs CVS checkouts (http://aquamacs.org). We have around 3,500 different users in any given week and more than 10,000 application starts a day. We're doing monthly or bi-monthly releases. The users have proven to be a useful test community. Over time, we have seen a lot of bug reports from users, some of which concerning bugs due to the use of functions in Emacs that wouldn't otherwise be used in a straight CVS build. I've generated or checked and passed on about 150 bug reports as a result, as my e-mail archive tells me. (Almost all of them were quickly fixed by maintainers!) It appears that the bug reports I am receiving (which actually concern issues in the Emacs core) have been getting a lot more scarce over the past couple of months, even though our user base has been growing. That's a good sign. That said, good quality is what people are expecting from a project that doesn't release very often...