From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:05:12 +0100 Message-ID: <2983368.DOhyMDKghp@galex-713.eu> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11456"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Kangas , drew.adams@oracle.com To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 07:07:06 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnx3A-0002jD-Vt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:07:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41442 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnx39-0002lz-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnx1c-00020C-5C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:05:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:5884:8305::1] (port=57606 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnx1Z-0002qq-I3; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:05:27 -0500 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnx1M-0002GL-Ug; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:05:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:5884:8305::1 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279711 Archived-At: Le vendredi 19 novembre 2021, 05:44:54 CET Richard Stallman a =C3=A9crit : > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > > Not in my experience. I have never seen + used to indicate > > > keyboard modifier keys. Always C-x, never C+x. > >=20 > > Here are some prominent examples: > >=20 > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-fire > > fox-tasks-quickly > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-shortcut-keys.html. > > en https://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer > > https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-concepts-shortcuts.html >=20 > How bizarre they are! >=20 > I am against making this change in Emacs. Why? everybody does that now and that=E2=80=99s strictly more recognizable = for=20 most of people (especially newcomers) nowadays