From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: completing-read (and M-x) with pop-up-frames non-nilchangesframefocus Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:57:39 +0200 Message-ID: <292F5C88-5C30-4592-ADE3-896EDB6FC547@swipnet.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121902578 16196 80.91.229.2 (20 Jul 2005 23:36:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 21 01:36:17 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DvO5t-0001yg-9W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:35:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DvO7w-0000pG-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DvNzw-0001br-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DvNzs-0001Z3-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DvNwt-0000KL-81 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.54.107.70] (helo=mxfep01.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DvNfC-00021I-NU; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain ([83.226.180.210] [83.226.180.210]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050720225752.KQQN11632.mxfep01.bredband.com@coolsville.localdomain>; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:57:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41099 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41099 > My bad. So users must set it, to tell Emacs about the window > manager. But > couldn't the default value be defined reasonably for a few > common window > managers? > > In most window managers, this behavior is customizable. And I don't > know if there is even a way to find out which window manager is > running, on most systems. I don't know if there is a way to find out > what the setting is. You can check if a window manager is running, but not which. You can not find out which focus model it uses. Besides, some window managers have more than than the two discussed here. For example, sloppy mouse, which is kind of in between mouse and click. Jan D.