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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312519 Archived-At: On 11/11/2023 03:11, Po Lu wrote: >> A high-level approach is to use a set of agreed-upon abstractions >> (functional programming in general, across languages, has a basic set, >> but there can be additions) to write programs shorter. > In this respect functional programming can be likened to poetry--after > writing a witty, caustic epigram inveighing against some perceived > iniquity, a poet is always very pleased with himself. But should he > apply his manner of writing to communication with real people, as by > speaking in epigrams before a clerk at an unemployment office, it is > likely he will starve. Poets don't use a common intermediate language which can be defined, studied and use by anybody who has the inclination and time to understand it. And makes sentences shorter.