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From: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  "rms@gnu.org" <rms@gnu.org>,
	 "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 02:31:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27352.7712490008$1734913983@news.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR10MB52328458FEC2E495C9D9ECE2F3012@DS7PR10MB5232.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:30:50 +0000")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> OK, I tried to figure it out, but at least the info I found wasn't
>> very definitive.  It seems to have to do with whether it's countable or
>> not, or whether it describe the "conceptual ideas" contained as opposed
>> to the actual elements contained.
>
> Right.  And the distinction isn't very important in
> practice, as the two are often used interchangeably
> (arguably incorrectly, but ... usage wins in the end,
> and who knows what verdict/measure the future will hold).
>
> Googling is helpful.  This bit from one search hit
> isn't a bad overview:
>
>  Thus, while a book has contents (sections, chapters,
>  subchapters, etc.), the content of a book is the story
>  it tells.
>
>  * This is a brief summary of the contents of the book.
>
>  * The title says one thing, but the content of the book
>    is completely different.
>
> https://www.pristineword.com/noun-content-contents/
>
> "Content" is the meaning that's "contained", abstractly,
> in something.  Something's "contents" are the actual
> things contained in it - the something is regarded only
> as a container.

I was thinking the same. Contents is wrong to me in this context.
as _the content_ by itself is already a multiple of something.

It is like writing peoples for multiple person when people
is already a multiple. Peoples similar the contents refers to
the persons inside people e.g. American Peoples Party.

But English in IMHO quite confusing when it comes to the s suffix and
not.
I can relate very much.

I regret not using a grammar checker sometimes..

> You might (sort of) think of this in terms of type
> versus constituent/instance.  "Content" looks beyond
> the contained individuals to what they have in common,
> and thus to what they represent/mean collectively.
>
>  * The contents of that directory are image files.
>    It contains files.
>
>  * The content of that directory is images (file type:
>    image).  That's the directory's purpose/meaning o.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-23  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-20  5:23 Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents Richard Stallman
2024-12-20  7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20  9:42   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-20 12:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22  4:06       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22  4:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-22  4:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-22 18:01             ` Morgan Willcock
2024-12-22 18:30             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-23  0:31               ` Björn Bidar [this message]
2024-12-23  4:08             ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-23  4:08     ` Richard Stallman

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