From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 10:05:41 +0000 Message-ID: <271290d7aadc36f9c91a@heytings.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3169cdcdbc4@heytings.org> <9088e12cb3a70cbf66aa@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38296"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rudolf Schlatte Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 11:15:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOHaU-0009p4-9U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 11:15:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40160 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOHaT-0005fY-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 06:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOHRQ-0005gA-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 06:05:46 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:40358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOHRP-0001HW-2M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 06:05:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616407541; bh=cHUo/hOoqU1JmXaJGpoiFIKaxVlCWIoJGP/wDTIVHZY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=NSXIOSyMmu3izlPcjdf3K1bCnpy2s3kRVnKW+hlLhY+CQOufoucoECQVfuX18yx5s gwSOLcJN5GKP3UfXYN1K74xTYmSE8ATVep/o0InPIlk7lCOFF7Z8OpLWmceLXX9Ju0 dyZaVhcWQ9l5HQN1UIuIeb3CAwASgWjF86qAwDvoEO8G2RjB7rFH7RJVX/iHE+060G a7EzGIW/ES0aQ0aJtWxvQqJRp7z2F4lHW/aLaESFqeOFak8FXJL219UO68rGwXosAj euWdzhxeW1LWvZxLgFY7NDPYf6ThpBnXv48VRyEzCnmLophkqBc736gl4Xxgjf5gyU RtYK35J5OPyFA== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266741 Archived-At: >> C-o is not at all "hitting the trash can", at the moment there is >> nothing more than a proposal to conduct an experiment to make a >> (small?) change to its meaning. > > Could you maybe repeat what change is planned? I looked at the proposed > patch and it seems to only remove the C-o keybinding. > No change is planned, at the moment there is nothing more than a proposal to conduct an experiment to make a (small?) change to its meaning, namely to move the open-line command to repeated C-o. > > Since I use C-o frequently, I'm curious what will happen when my fingers > press it while editing text, and to what extent I will have to > reconfigure standard Emacs keybindings (which is something I try to > avoid). > This is precisely the purpose of time-limited experiments, during which users such as you can see what happens with their fingers, whether they can adapt to the new default binding, or whether they have to reconfigure something.