From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:20:03 +0000 Message-ID: <271290d7aabbaaaae725@heytings.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3169cdcdbc4@heytings.org> <9088e12cb3a70cbf66aa@heytings.org> <8335wnc16k.fsf@gnu.org> <271290d7aa689ad374a6@heytings.org> <87o8fbe7x7.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RmrKJZMiSt" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8070"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 13:26:08 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOJdF-0001w1-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:26:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35742 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOJdE-00088M-NU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:26:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOJXa-00042X-JM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:20:16 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:40494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOJXV-0002mw-GO; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:20:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616415604; bh=MQXmSz/XiwhEI9moipw997E1YMqdupC1BEr8DT6hPXc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=gPQMjHs9kOHaZsn+vBz8INuayN+gl9km4QImi8a/dW6J2ABvkUdFDMAEeB0NtPzWN cU2h8SlVxUZGamcEmE3GVwG8ZX50WUxKctwJoAh3+R1BZhQqPdcX4PThrNycNZWgIt Jtv7LFM+XPpvUEBrlc/U7axW3L0jF4hdhAVOZfT+a4z1DD6pLDegUWgKs+73lolqSj KNL724ZyW4JUTJY6SFS9gbwkrjhi8jNDHc3jsvXcPfnUWIJxYYXxsp5CLJk4fpDiQJ 6+sErdqh2aY9S1HWMLWIgSFfRQn4/cTm7v69UatWRQXGfqQwXEGZUsZmklhM38uIcl B0PiLXUalgn2A== In-Reply-To: <87o8fbe7x7.fsf@posteo.net> Content-ID: <271290d7aa49845f5961@heytings.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266751 Archived-At: --RmrKJZMiSt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <271290d7aa0b4a95d275@heytings.org> >> M-n and M-p: were initially unused, became what they are now in Emacs 17 > > M-n and M-p are still unused? Or did the convention > > A major mode can also rebind the keys =E2=80=98M-n=E2=80=99, =E2=80= =98M-p=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98M-s=E2=80=99. The bindings for =E2=80=98M-n= =E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98M-p=E2=80=99 should normally be some kind of moving = forward and backward, but this does not necessarily mean cursor motion. > > (elisp) Major Mode Conventions > > not exist before Emacs 17? > No, M-n/M-p are of course not unused. They were unused before Emacs 17=20 (except in rmail mode). The current convention for M-n/M-p started to=20 exist with the binding of M-n/M-p in the minibuffer to move to the=20 next/previous command in the command history in Emacs 17. But of course=20 at that point it was not formalized as a convention. --RmrKJZMiSt--