From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:06:20 +0000 Message-ID: <271290d7aa8a72cee4a3@heytings.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3169cdcdbc4@heytings.org> <9088e12cb3a70cbf66aa@heytings.org> <9088e12cb381e11e6d32@heytings.org> <9088e12cb36020430ea2@heytings.org> <271290d7aa5560786ded@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22841"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 20:07:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPtt-0005qa-EK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:07:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPts-0000Cz-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:07:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPsf-0008C0-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:06:25 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:41000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPsd-0007iD-Fn; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:06:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616439980; bh=f3pKt2vxhFYGMaduuEx5hIWChFXOXK4jibl6uH8evQQ=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=HKQxJhcuOHlEs91UHsmrckBL4epazzHfRwVXWJQeJyoWLlw9Qkp2JsnFwxzVjvOg7 x2tBJxQfCgrYVdHZ5+fUgSXUxvJukoKRANXDwA5QRfHv1o7uhbtGYukT+8VeoBIxkZ VdaISpiUXlJhzuAZJsN5gNbrwW1qIHuzZ5Zxu0ItcLCc7/UKZG/Mok50OciOep8XYQ qDzbXPbr+Zc/0DZ5fCH21AwiBftOupmhlHQJf5/Eszr86UwPaOIR4sE2fOa3BH2V+y M/cqHesw89J03UUq85jGDMyKO7yd3s8ICqdLdsxRr6r0dhLlFeK299tnRrtvwZIOXj Ln38jOWDasHMw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266792 Archived-At: > > I don't have the link at hand, but RMS had posted how to do exactly this > time of poll. I can try to locate it for you if you want. > I would indeed be interested in seeing it. > > The point here is that the suggestions have been removing featues, > without replacing them. exit-recursive-edit got moved to a different > binding, and the semantics of C-c got changed to something useful. > Once again, the point of the suggested experiment is _not_ to remove a feature. open-line would be moved to a different binding, and the semantics of C-o would be changed to something useful. (Obviously, I'm not proposing this just to leave the that key unused.)