From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Frame ordering Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:14:14 -0400 Message-ID: <268FB0C3-89E6-41DF-9136-4968332547FA@gmail.com> References: <8F18E079-3351-4398-B76B-6CF9169ACE9E@gmail.com> <4C123889.5060801@gmx.at> <597D28BE-ABE3-4FFF-84B1-1FBF9931293C@gmail.com> <4C126EA5.1050509@gmx.at> <4DF4317D-522E-4948-9C19-ED1252BF36B2@gmail.com> <4C133EDF.8070407@gmx.at> <77C00490-801D-47B9-83BC-32D786F1F684@gmail.com> <1F24A2FE-EF86-4E03-84CF-69748A482C64@gmail.com> <2E617238-2118-408D-8939-80C50A2CB9FB@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276536491 13392 80.91.229.12 (14 Jun 2010 17:28:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 14 19:28:09 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OODSA-00006B-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:28:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35612 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OODS9-0006i0-Ec for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54542 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OODPf-0004nZ-O3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OODEo-00026j-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:35308) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OODEo-00026b-6o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so1834332vws.0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:14:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=u9xKp5lrWiYDuzh6Er4QD8tYZivoZwkrJngjultxpHo=; b=OKHlv5Q6iPSrAKfCCXWNo48rg9Tm7gJ+SY6vKUn5zxPqMGeu/yFkm2zbVEUBvP8Whb D++z17ZlJeZap81097oe2q34l5d7lZ1hSHem0tUjdGHakl9MA+TEi3dECdbsAtUm4UUa vfaMHAtNA8JfSiTCfqHU3JTA99qpeFIuo17UI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Rhtq2IvarhbjsNRqhJ4fTOtJ/O36rtlkH/U+wpgUIuwCz6wmbo8dMiIC9cvy1K/t9m tJL+hX2jbveHLEzx1r2OuSGNA+Z2TuGkJfuXJBm3qznRtYhoBbUsrMqLrKQSRiXrg8Li bp/H+BhAiBlBr5vFxyurREIqhU9v0XwR5uUmI= Original-Received: by 10.220.126.129 with SMTP id c1mr2957991vcs.27.1276535657373; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from elin.psy.cmu.edu (ELIN.PSY.CMU.EDU [128.2.248.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm4522502vco.36.2010.06.14.10.14.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125922 Archived-At: On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: >=20 > Was not what you shown (Command-Tab switching) what the window handler > on OS X does? If so then trying to interfere with that is probably a > bad idea (and is prevented actively by at least w32). To clarify: I spoke about application switching, not switching between = the windows of a single application (A-` and A-~). OSX and Windows follow different philosophies there. I fully agree that one should let the window manager do it, but we want = to make sure that this interacts nicely with programmatically raised = frames and such. I think this should be no problem. If all of these things work great in GNU/Linux with whatever window = manager, and on Windows, then there is no need to modify the order of = frames in Vframe_list.