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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314200 Archived-At: From: Drew Adams Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 03:49:30 +0000 > I fail to see how using "t" is consistent with cond . . . > > In fact, none of Richard's "three" options strike me as truly > palatable . . . > > . . . I did want to point out what I thought was a severe drawback > of using "t", since no one else seemed to have noticed. Yes, this is essentially what I and others have said. It might be less confusing if the name `cond*' weren't used, as that really invites exactly such confusion . . . If I have not added anything by my inattention, then I apologize for not reading your (and others') posts more closely. At least we seem to be on the same page re cond*. -- Bob