From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:47:17 -0500 Message-ID: <259924D1-EA2C-4DA0-BE16-64F2AFBE2B4F@gmail.com> References: <64d3zvx1zi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <81F2C51D-1E10-4301-9721-5AFDCD8848B2@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-53-913228833" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1266983273 7804 80.91.229.12 (24 Feb 2010 03:47:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 24 04:47:49 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nk8Dw-0000fe-FD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:47:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42933 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nk8Dv-0000xx-QZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:47:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nk8Dp-0000xc-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:47:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60370 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nk8Do-0000xD-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:47:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nk8Do-0005OU-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:47:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:52874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nk8Dm-0005O8-5o; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:47:34 -0500 Original-Received: by vws15 with SMTP id 15so347363vws.0 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:47:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-pgp-agent:x-mailer; bh=1MQTu8wSsmAGFpkGrZacJfkfxsLctuMAMBmeYeWHEuo=; b=PQbu/LMd3JWM1av+noxr5aZQMJm3S+GNxvxK7czYiXKOWys4Us5waL7cKDM6TH8iCQ u5vlhU8BdySvdvP2CbsrmTUCPEw0HTAVm1G2lZ4QEjxmv0KKYqT+bxY5o7uiI5MJu4oh eL/alEVByYF3mRbbZNiaLeNsiNXbhs0My8E28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-pgp-agent :x-mailer; b=M4taz/z/jYcBecxxIV3jXogtMRol+pg1FoMgvV2nNEO3CY4kpjvUIOkaa8gUosWTy9 3pAPxlFVpAD0eiEs3cM7Udntw8ccs9+knERrI5KGy4wSUtvgfgxy6DRQJdLNlMm1yMJh GL3TrWPUrjWPv4Oy0YxReg57KUB/OSF231twQ= Original-Received: by 10.220.121.136 with SMTP id h8mr4081564vcr.204.1266983252122; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:47:32 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?192.168.1.42? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121320 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-53-913228833 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Feb 23, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > + ;;;###autoload(custom-initialize-delay 'send-mail-function nil) > +=20 > ;;;###autoload > (defcustom mail-header-separator (purecopy "--text follows this = line--") That's a smaller change and maybe the right thing to do right now, but = I'd still like to understand why you accept the initialization mechanism = in startup.el to init only at dump time and not at run-time in the case = of send-mail-function. That's what seemed to be the real problem. = Adding code to loaddefs.el seems like a workaround. Btw. I considered a solution like yours, but I didn't figure you could = do this sort of thing with the ###autoload cookies. I thought, from a = comment in autoload.el, that they were restricted to defcustoms and = defuns.= --Apple-Mail-53-913228833 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkuEoU8ACgkQYotoJUVQB4LMgACgnlObUv8ZLnuybrdLzdvs9+pA s/oAoM2K2fKlsizZEuXz6gu8Flf38+Rr =McQm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-53-913228833--