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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301725 Archived-At: Agreed. Org is awesome, but as others have pointed out in the past, it's turned into a platform atop a platform atop a ... and is getting extremely complex both from an end-user view-point, as well as supporting it from packages like emacspeak --- Stefan Monnier writes: > > One thing which may be holding this up is that org has a policy to= > > backward support at least the previous 2 major versions of Emacs > > i.e. right now with Emacs 28.2, or also supports 27.x and 26.x. I > > suspect once transient is in all supported versions, the change to= > > transient will be implemented. >=20 > Transient is in GNU ELPA and claims to be compatible with Emacs=E2=89= =A525, so > that's probably not a big blocker, >=20 >=20 > Stefan --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =E2=99=89 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =F0=9F=A6=AE -- Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) ♉ Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 🦮