From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jostein_Kj=c3=b8nigsen?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs for pure Gtk3 Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 08:54:21 +0200 Message-ID: <253ea1e8-e392-ce07-8abd-6996d0036f5a@secure.kjonigsen.net> References: <1588043944.2848.14@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EDC5C66CF4984840155A537E" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="120008"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jeff Walsh , eliz@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 08 08:55:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jWwuV-000V7M-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 08:55:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44562 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWwuU-00024n-Uf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 02:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWwty-0001Wa-0x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 02:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.21]:52455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWwtw-0007Pn-OG; Fri, 08 May 2020 02:54:29 -0400 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC7B953; Fri, 8 May 2020 02:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 08 May 2020 02:54:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= secure.kjonigsen.net; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; s=fm3; bh=AVZjnUA6K HXWdfxIIOXFGmdU5PSCcLhdfntJ3zuBc6E=; b=L4vuv0oWWA4837t5IcPuFTbPw FlBNUVGd9BelMTqduFhb36iWk7C+O2myQvhYwqAHAJIGYpKS0i5W+RPsD+0XLpBz VWWBipWUluYw2taElXORmM0sJ/8SC+nS88YhygiCdGdvG0q5XPmg9/idDI4dThRd RYl9c0QYHUScMAJeMgOowjfFrWaauoO1tg+0/Xkf+288TTbqDP862E5DsStRGIG6 rRCkGYwQwObavb/Etyc8XXOmE1SgP5EBf+efs6T1us1/EQm8WJNLE0mBoIa2hNCH Y8st5YE/rtjebtSAdAjQGpeGo7AoX6OpeXMYWrHQHJ6ybXfciOajHzDt5SjUQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=AVZjnU A6KHXWdfxIIOXFGmdU5PSCcLhdfntJ3zuBc6E=; b=vGafIMZu7WC17znGlnjsE5 fNSUfZy5HAsWM/8FhYuTkd86j1vvXZm3qtt4Dd9on/1Y6xaDUlu7q44IlAxbdDaM f/42rGqgBW2Sgggb7Lx2skKibdkOiytYd8KqVjigTVMMKaB0xNPz26UUGi2AvUCF lY3PB5Z79rGYwXVVvRLp+bDhSoUm47QXLVGnvXvcFgWvMzU+hCYM4CFJjh1ZXFB6 oehvCTxUklLGAy238+1geNdkaeESWL33GwMajMV17E2H0t8NWcazhPLi9xPVGG// 6cYG61SNKPG8IVubA3Je3Z8o2rATlTFSlT24ijnIypVNs1/hnkjyEVsc85afFUVA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrkedugdduudduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefuvfhfhffkffgfgggjtgesrgdtre ertdefjeenucfhrhhomheplfhoshhtvghinhgpmfhjpphnihhgshgvnhcuoehjohhsthgv ihhnsehsvggtuhhrvgdrkhhjohhnihhgshgvnhdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnh epudfffeffveffffehveeivedvveduvdffueegfeejlefggfefgfdvffetfefgheehnecu ffhomhgrihhnpehnihhgshgvnhdrnhhonecukfhppeekgedrvdduuddrfedvrdduheenuc evlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjohhsthgv ihhnsehsvggtuhhrvgdrkhhjohhnihhgshgvnhdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: from [192.168.1.122] (cm-84.211.32.15.getinternet.no [84.211.32.15]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B65933280060; Fri, 8 May 2020 02:54:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <1588043944.2848.14@gmail.com> Content-Language: nb-NO Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.21; envelope-from=jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net; helo=wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/08 02:54:25 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249246 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EDC5C66CF4984840155A537E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 28.04.2020 05:19, Jeff Walsh wrote: > it will run on wayland or xwayland or X11 from the same binary, but > not on wayland and X11 concurrently. The only scenario I can think of is SSHing into a machine with a Wayland desktop which already has Emacs running. If you then try to launch Emacs from your SSH-session, that would normally cause a new X11-session to be started, using SSH and X-forwarding. Are you saying such scenarios don't work with the current pure GTK3 approach? If so, I guess that's ok and definitely not unprecendented. For instance I can't launch a new Firefox instance over SSH and X11, if I already have an existing Firefox session running on the machine being SSHed into. -- Kind regards *Jostein Kjønigsen* jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com https://jostein.kjønigsen.no --------------EDC5C66CF4984840155A537E Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 28.04.2020 05:19, Jeff Walsh wrote:
it will run on wayland or xwayland or X11 from the same binary, but not on wayland and X11 concurrently.

The only scenario I can think of is SSHing into a machine with a Wayland desktop which already has Emacs running.

If you then try to launch Emacs from your SSH-session, that would normally cause a new X11-session to be started, using SSH and X-forwarding.

Are you saying such scenarios don't work with the current pure GTK3 approach? If so, I guess that's ok and definitely not unprecendented. For instance I can't launch a new Firefox instance over SSH and X11, if I already have an existing Firefox session running on the machine being SSHed into.

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Kind regards
Jostein Kjønigsen

jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com
https://jostein.kjønigsen.no
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