From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:40:37 +0100 Message-ID: <251AF5DB-AAE3-4803-A384-9FA7C0D6A796@gmail.com> References: <87y6x4ue2u.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87ocxqnnb6.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87hc3ens4h.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1070) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247654662 16318 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2009 10:44:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 15 12:44:14 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MR1yA-0002gV-5V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:44:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MR1y9-0006hJ-Fk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:44:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MR1us-0005AA-8q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:40:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MR1un-00057G-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49744 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MR1un-000574-9L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:40:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]:65122) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MR1ul-00083i-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:40:44 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ew0-f217.google.com with SMTP id 17so4367063ewy.42 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:40:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=CyaSTOxA87ggpqlnNid8Q2d1VRknQwH3vUcWwjBgfm0=; b=tniTQ37/2HD1hn5lc4NWHv1fHeiBG+HPig85W/lLgptQpufPTMZeksk/pZE8L6hIv6 JdsC5/5HZEQpahRhqGurOFY004s8i0MUclBO7ICnuHQCNiTlymxXpq9TKW5VZvG0rZBn aCkSpcvW4FeN0wC/8MX8mgDWCZIqNGrXLhdKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=TrjX/vfRZI0ehuEHHrZ2sCLZSOM2GTc0hNJG2VxzT2ERqg7G2sdtw+krcssHE0/Whh wnNyUn1BvgU3ho+VVaw07ld7mHxXIPB4rcM4njGeo1gO2V8hq2Ve5UJMIjElUNoOlpgg Y7sKqLLf2ym9/fsgTWd2c/JaGFhhtfNLSl7lo= Original-Received: by 10.216.15.68 with SMTP id e46mr2103697wee.225.1247654440247; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?10.0.0.182? ([193.1.208.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm20159003gvf.9.2009.07.15.03.40.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:40:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1070) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112488 Archived-At: On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Now I suppose we are at "just before the 23.1 release". Will the NS >> port be marked as experimental/hackers-only, or given a title of >> "first-class" port as a part of the official release? > > I believe it is considered "first class port". At least I do not > think > it's "experimental". [ Of course, the situation is completely > different for the GNUstep support ] The long list of bugs (including crashes) suggests to mark it as experimental. We currently don't have enough people who contribute fixes. The port doesn't have release quality. Note that the port doesn't build on the developer-releases of OS X 10.6 (dumping fails), so it is likely that it won't build on 10.6 once it is out. On the other hand, we don't want to discourage people to tinker with it since we want them to contribute code. So it would be important to get it out there for people to use.