From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mutating existing persistent data Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:47:40 -0500 Message-ID: <25008.7372.671844.542144@orion.rgrjr.com> References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <875ys2lyt0.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnkhlxb9.fsf@yahoo.com> <2FD7D920-D92C-480B-B2AC-91A17F0397C4@mit.edu> <87zgpdi0rk.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7bkzg01.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtlcfaga.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilw0xj6o.fsf@gnu.org> <87v900duuc.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnkf6glr.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24391"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 03:48:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mun0Y-0006Be-MB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:48:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34630 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mun0X-0002SJ-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:48:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumzi-0001mX-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:47:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rgrjr.com ([69.164.211.47]:41194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumzg-0007wR-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:47:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rgrjr.com (c-73-16-206-7.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.16.206.7]) by rgrjr.com (Postfix on openSUSE) with ESMTP id 1EDFE1D6BB2; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 02:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from orion.rgrjr.com (orion.rgrjr.com [192.168.0.3]) by scorpio.rgrjr.com (Postfix on openSUSE GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id 1014D5FE78; Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:47:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87wnkf6glr.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 28.0.90 Received-SPF: none client-ip=69.164.211.47; envelope-from=rogers-emacs@rgrjr.homedns.org; helo=rgrjr.com X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.44, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281306 Archived-At: From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 02:16:32 +0100 . . . Bob Rogers writes: > Maybe use "multisession"? That's a bit of a mouthful, [but] it's > more precise than anything else I've seen, and some extra semantic > weight won't hurt. "multisession" does convey a lot -- these objects are extra-special in that they'll discover when they've been changed by a different Emacs (if enabled), too, and "multisession" also says something about that. Is there a shorter work that conveys the same thing? I.e., that the value might be coming from a different Emacs, and that it's persistent, too? That's a lot to convey in a single word, let alone one that is shorter. You could consider an acronym, but that risks being obscure. -- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/