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From: Davis Herring <herring@lanl.gov>
To: sbaugh@catern.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using file descriptors in Emacs
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 09:40:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24e100b3-553f-116d-cb8e-4cdbde3d08d2@lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zinez85m.fsf@earth.catern.com>

[All sbaugh@catern.com:]
>>> I suppose one could add the capability to pass in a process object as
>>> the source of input for a new process object. This could be implemented
>>> by forcing the passed-in process object to a state where it does not
>>> have (and cannot have) a process-filter function. Then the file
>>> descriptor used for input to the passed-in process object could be
>>> manipulated appropriately to make it the stdin of the new process
>>> object. The new process object in turn will be in a special state where
>>> it cannot accept input from Emacs.
[...]
>>> Then also it is necessary to handle redirecting to and from files
>>> without going through Emacs. That could be done by creating a new kind
>>> of process object which is created by opening a file, and then that can
>>> be passed in in the way I describe above.
[...]
> OK, that works for me. I guess it's not really different from the API I
> would have constructed for file descriptors.

Of course it's not any different: the phrases "[cannot] have ... a 
process-filter function", "a special state where it cannot accept input 
from Emacs", and especially "a new kind of process object which is 
created by opening a file" are telling you that these "generalized 
process objects" _are_ file descriptors.

Of course, this is already the case in Emacs: `make-network-process' 
makes a socket which (on POSIX at least) is a file descriptor.  The 
terminological confusion requires hedges like

> However, a network process has no process id, it cannot be signaled,
> and the status codes are different from normal processes.

from its documentation.

Davis

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-12 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-07  1:25 Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] process: add features for direct use of FDs Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] server.el: accept FDs from emacsclient Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] emacsclient: support passing stdin/out/err to emacs Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] server: add pager tapping and show-active Spencer Baugh
2016-06-07  1:25 ` [PATCH 5/5] emacsclient: add extra-quiet mode Spencer Baugh
2016-06-08 15:51 ` Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more Tassilo Horn
2016-06-08 16:13   ` Anders Lindgren
2016-06-08 17:30     ` Tassilo Horn
2016-06-09  0:25   ` raman
2016-06-09 11:31 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-06-27 22:42 ` Ole JørgenBrønner
2016-07-24 18:22 ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 13:42   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-09-09 14:14     ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 14:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-09 15:58         ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 19:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-09 19:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 21:13             ` sbaugh
2016-09-10  6:37               ` Using file descriptors in Emacs (was: Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more) Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-10 20:15             ` Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more sbaugh
2016-09-11  2:11               ` Leo Liu
2018-02-16 23:14               ` Kaushal Modi
2018-02-17 15:46                 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-09-09 15:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 17:16         ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 18:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 19:03             ` sbaugh
2016-09-09 19:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 20:38                 ` sbaugh
2016-09-10  7:12                   ` Using file descriptors in Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-10 14:28                     ` sbaugh
2016-09-11 15:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-11 16:00                         ` sbaugh
2016-09-11 16:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-11 16:57                             ` sbaugh
2016-09-11 17:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-12 15:40                               ` Davis Herring [this message]
2016-09-09 13:27 ` Teaching emacsclient to act as a pager, and more sbaugh

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