From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:07:19 -0700 Message-ID: <24CFA9D538E942AEA803109469898525@us.oracle.com> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87wrt0e81n.fsf@telefonica.net><62E9699C07054418AB66F9C5FCB54E5C@us.oracle.com><87sk3oe3la.fsf@telefonica.net><1154D96E7D2F401D849266F359E44BB9@us.oracle.com><87ocecdzou.fsf@telefonica.net><2256C17F740A425884AD551DE7758056@us.oracle.com><87fwzodqqm.fsf@telefonica.net><5138CDF30B2D4B778F948015614DA7BC@us.oracle.com><87iq4ijtdy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><270AD461F0F14E549F82D88785A23A0A@us.oracle.com> <876306140d.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279908912 28913 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2010 18:15:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'=D3scar_Fuentes'?=" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 20:15:10 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcMm5-0008N8-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:15:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50793 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcMm4-0004VI-PO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59729 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcMg4-0000B7-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcMg3-0001MX-NY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:36124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcMg3-0001MJ-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o6NI8rNG023651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:08:54 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o6MN0hT4026102; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:08:52 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 431894601279908442; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:07:22 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.216.179) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:07:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <876306140d.fsf@telefonica.net> Thread-Index: AcsqkPONVXK529icR2Wbb1f2DYNk9wAAHQRg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4C49DAB4.0224:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127717 Archived-At: > > We've seen no _evidence_ about a supposed dearth of newbies > > coming to Emacs, in spite of repeated _claims_. No > > Emacs-is-dying problem has been shown, so far. > > Of course it is very hard to show statistics for newbies. > OTOH, absence of proof does not indicate that the fact does > not exists. Can you say "Tooth Fairy"? "Santa Claus"? I won't mention other religious figures.