From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:21:16 -0400 Message-ID: <24666.9100.875636.540795@orion.rgrjr.com> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <87tup3hwat.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <834kh39fvj.fsf@gnu.org> <271290d7aaec41df5fde@heytings.org> <83k0py8f5k.fsf@gnu.org> <22aaf0fadd2892c6dc2e@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29944"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 19:29:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOlmp-0007gF-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:29:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59852 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOlmo-0005iy-Oq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 14:29:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOkiX-0003mF-ME for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from li126-47.members.linode.com ([69.164.211.47]:43200 helo=rgrjr.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOkiW-0000eT-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rgrjr.com (c-73-38-6-11.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.38.6.11]) by rgrjr.com (Postfix on openSUSE) with ESMTP id EA2C61D69B9; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from orion (orion.rgrjr.com [192.168.0.3]) by scorpio.rgrjr.com (Postfix on openSUSE GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id 04E485FE71; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by orion (Postfix, from userid 500) id E55E6E0F2B; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <22aaf0fadd2892c6dc2e@heytings.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 28.0.50 Received-SPF: none client-ip=69.164.211.47; envelope-from=rogers-emacs@rgrjr.com; helo=rgrjr.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266884 Archived-At: From: Gregory Heytings Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 14:15:12 +0000 > Opening an empty line is a very useful editing primitive, not unlike > going to the next line with RET. I'd bet it is useful, as it is, only for 0.5% of Emacs users, perhaps even less. No other editor I know has that feature . . . True of oodles of Emacs features. And I'd bet that 90% of those 0.5% would be happier with a better open-line primitive, for example one which can be called when point is in the middle of a line . . . I use it *mostly* in the middle of lines. I think you'd lose that bet, and probably the first as well. -- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/