From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Qiantan Hong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 04:31:09 +0000 Message-ID: <2453EA24-5373-4A79-A178-DE9CA820E359@mit.edu> References: <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> <20201011073553.GA6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201011120840.GC2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201011125031.GC6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201012050418.GZ2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201013052736.GE31408@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201016130235.06218dae@argon> <20201016142436.187b8210@argon> <20201016152523.6fdfef65@argon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9D3BFDD9-4DC8-4D44-8BB0-8453F9A0A055"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18762"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Marcel Ventosa , "thibaut.verron@gmail.com" , Jean Louis , emacs-devel To: "rms@gnu.org" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 06:32:53 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdtl-0004lS-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 06:32:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36764 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdtk-000069-Du for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdsE-0007Tk-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu ([18.9.28.58]:45985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdsB-0006xt-NK; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:31:17 -0400 Original-Received: from oc11exedge2.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE2.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.18]) by outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 09H4V9dR017788; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) by oc11exedge2.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1293.2; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) by oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1365.1; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.47]) by oc11expo16.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.47]) with mapi id 15.00.1365.000; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:31:09 -0400 Thread-Topic: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Thread-Index: AQHWnYhtCfixFL4n4E+mFeu17KEJU6mOn74lgAGLiYCAAbeIdYAAZ3qAgABMNwCAAAuxgIAAm1IQgABbIICAABmhAIAACCSAgAEzeReAAF06AIAEW2I0gABlY4CAAA4JgIAACOEAgAAICQCAAAjygIABC5jvgABFTIA= In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [18.18.245.17] Received-SPF: pass client-ip=18.9.28.58; envelope-from=qhong@mit.edu; helo=outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/17 00:31:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Windows 7 (Websense crawler) X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257902 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_9D3BFDD9-4DC8-4D44-8BB0-8453F9A0A055 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8DA5F440-3842-41B9-AA08-A4786DC7F956" --Apple-Mail=_8DA5F440-3842-41B9-AA08-A4786DC7F956 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >=20 > Here is an ironic conflict. It would be good for someone to explain > the GNU pilosophy there so that they understand that we have reasons > for what we do. But I can't ask you to run nonfree software to > post on Reddit. >=20 > Is there any API that someone could use to make a free program > that can post on Reddit? >=20 > --=20 > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) It seems that https://i.reddit.com/ works pretty = well with LibreJS enabled. I assume it=E2=80=99s intended to be a JavaScript free version. Browsing and posting both works.= --Apple-Mail=_8DA5F440-3842-41B9-AA08-A4786DC7F956 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

Here is an ironic conflict.  It would be = good for someone to explain
the GNU pilosophy there so = that they understand that we have reasons
for what we do. =  But I can't ask you to run nonfree software to
post = on Reddit.

Is there any API that someone = could use to make a free program
that can post on = Reddit?

--
Dr Richard = Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

It seems = that https://i.reddit.com/ works pretty = well
with LibreJS enabled. I assume it=E2=80=99s intended = to
be a JavaScript free version. Browsing and posting both = works.
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