From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephan Stahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: incrementor-decrementor commands and bindings (was: finger-pointercurser as default for mouse-face text) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:51:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <24482.217.194.34.123.1099468265.squirrel@wwws.franken.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099468324 11906 80.91.229.6 (3 Nov 2004 07:52:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan , Karl Eichwalder , Martin Blais , Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 03 08:51:53 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPFvt-0006VH-00 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:51:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPG3y-0004nu-Hu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 03:00:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPG3f-0004k5-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 02:59:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPG3d-0004ht-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 02:59:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPG3d-0004hd-6I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 02:59:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.175.24.27] (helo=ilsa.franken.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CPFvB-0002hJ-2y; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 02:51:09 -0500 Original-Received: from wwws.franken.de (mail-n.franken.de [193.175.24.27]) by ilsa.franken.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C750245DF; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:51:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from 217.194.34.123 (SquirrelMail authenticated user eos) by wwws.franken.de with HTTP; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:51:05 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Original-To: "Drew Adams" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29360 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29360 Hi. Drew Adams said: > I decided to use just the four arrow keys (and/or the mouse-wheel) for _all_ > such commands - easy to use and remember. To do that, I have a non-chord > binding for each incrementor-decrementor command to "start it up"; then the > command itself reads the arrow keys and the mouse-wheel to do its job. I really like this idea. However i think the use of the arrowkeys / mousewheel should be extended to maybe M-p, M-n. Those keys should be availible while not in minibuffer-mode and there they mirror the behaviour of arrowkeys up / down. I find it annoying to move the hand off of the homerow. Guess that's why i do not use things like C-x / or , , , .... My two cent :). Stephan -- Stephan Stahl