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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -180 X-Spam_score: -18.1 X-Spam_bar: ------------------ X-Spam_report: (-18.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.499, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256810 Archived-At: I too have C-; C-' and C-, as prefix keys, but I've used them all -- Stefan Monnier writes: > > In general I step back to saying emacs needs more keys --- 20 year= s ago > > when I mostly never used a laptop as often, I even considered gett= ing a > > foot-pedal. >=20 > FWIW, all my keyboards have plenty of keys to provide free modifiers= > (super/hyper). >=20 >=20 > Stefan --=20 =E2=99=89Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =F0=9F=A6=AE=E2=99=89 -- ♉Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 🦮♉