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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244547 Archived-At: we're talking across one another. I did not suggest a change in core emacs, I suggested that someone interested in helping users ease into emacs could write up a set of font choices that work in a given situation. Let's close this thread. Eli Zaretskii writes: > > From: "T.V Raman" > > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:47:44 -0800 > > Cc: raman@google.com, > > jpff@codemist.co.uk, > > rpluim@gmail.com, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > More precisely, my question was in the context of helping users choose > > a font that is best suited to their needs --- the task is likely > > something that can be achieved by someone with the > > interest/motivation creating an appropriate theme. > > So you did mean a more general question. > > In that case, I don't see how we could do a better job than we already > have in fontest.el. The problem here is that (a) we cannot know which > fonts are installed on the end-user's machine, and (b) many fonts that > people so like to use and advertise aren't free, so we don't want to > promote them by including them in our fontest. And on top of all > that, there's the personal preferences of each user, which IME are > quite different. -- Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 -- Id: kg:/m/0285kf1