From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Elisp LSP Server Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:51:16 +0200 Message-ID: <2338380.LQ4i800uW1@galex-713.eu> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <8100571.MQnaI0vtd3@galex-713.eu> <61BDF1BF-20DF-4867-909C-B4CF81866162@thornhill.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12438"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 25 09:52:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meumR-00032u-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:52:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38614 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meumP-0000Dl-W7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 03:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meulR-0007y2-PE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 03:51:25 -0400 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:45842 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meulP-0004em-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 03:51:25 -0400 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meulI-0003XK-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:51:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <61BDF1BF-20DF-4867-909C-B4CF81866162@thornhill.no> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277719 Archived-At: Le lundi 25 octobre 2021, 09:45:21 CEST Theodor Thornhill a =C3=A9crit : > On October 25, 2021 9:22:36 AM GMT+02:00, Alexandre Garreau=20 wrote: > >Le lundi 25 octobre 2021, 04:17:51 CEST Richard Stallman a =C3=A9crit : > >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider =20 > >> ]]] > >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, =20 > >> ]]] > >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > >> ]]] > >>=20 > >> > > The OP was referring to being able to open "VS Code" (a version > >> > > of > >> > > it) > >> > > inside the browser. It's a "cloud IDE" sort of thing. > >> >=20 > >> > Ah. We could open Emacs locally though, using an extension. > >>=20 > >> You can already start Emacs locally. What's the actual point or goal > >> here? > > > >you cannot from webpages, yet these represent most of the usage of > >their computer from modern users. This is because of their hypertext > >nature: by being heavily interconnected, they lead to some kind of > >addiction/ accumulation (that=E2=80=99s easily seen when you =E2=80=9Cge= t lost on > >wikipedia=E2=80=9D by compulsively reading stuff that have something lit= tle > >but interesting in common). The issue is you can follow an hyperlink > >from emacs (or any software, for the matter) to the webbrowser, but > >more hardly from the webbrowser to some specific function of emacs > >(but a new file that would be stored in /tmp, hence limiting the > >usefulness of emacs in the time, since the file won=E2=80=99t be there i= n the > >future to edit again), and, worse, impossible from any software that=E2= =80=99s > >not a browser nor emacs, to emacs (at least through a hyperlink, which > >in most software always triggers a browser). >=20 > https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-gitpod >=20 > This looks like what you are thinking of, doesn't it? Absolutely not, because it takes the whole page (an entire tab), while I=20 mean a single block *inside* an already webpage. Furthermore: this seems=20 to require javascript (my idea would only be to require a simple bar link,= =20 or element, to any emacs-editable file, to trigger the opening of=20 an emacs X window *inside* a webpage), and worse: the opening, hence=20 execution (though not usage) of VS Code.