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From: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org>,
	Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs development...
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:05:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2281ccca2d439b935535197d931c1ccf41b0f86f.camel@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <351DF59E-BFE0-4CC2-8A40-B4E7CB73D81E@traduction-libre.org>

On Sat, 2021-08-21 at 16:50 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Aug 21, 2021, at 16:16, Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org> writes:
> > 
> > Hi Jean-Christophe,
> > 
> > > Right now, I use C-h f to find the function definitions and move
> > > around the code.
> > 
> > That, and also M-. on a function call or variable will bring you to its
> > definition.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Sorry for this very basic question, what's the best way to navigate back to
> where I was ?

Seems to me, you don't have a workflow yet for development in general through Emacs. Because questions like "how to go to definition" and "how to go back" aren't really specific to ELisp, it's something you'd use while working with pretty much any language, be it C, Python, Haskell, C++, Rust… The only question you asked specific to ELisp is about debugging ELisp code.

This is okay ofc, I'm just pointing it out because it might give you some ideas on what to look for.

There's a popular opinion that default Emacs keybindings aren't the best, and people usually reconfigure some of them as they find appropriate.

And there're many different workflows for code/text navigation in Emacs. For example, I personally prefer using Evil plugin (a vim-mode inside Emacs, but it actually had more features than the actual vim), and using C-o, C-i in "normal mode" of Evil to go back and forth between locations in text. By default it may switch buffers which I don't like, so I disabled that. "going to definition" I personally bound to "gd" in normal mode of Evil. And then, inside a single file there are usually multiple specific places that are of interest to me, so I set marks to them with (again, keybinding specific to Evil) "m1", "m2", "m3"… i.e. just enumerating them in an order I find interesting.

There's also "avy" package for faster navigation within the visible text portions.

There are also Emacs "starter-kits" with lots of preconfigured stuff, e.g. Doom Emacs I heard is very good (I never personally used it, because by the time it became popular I already had a personalized configuration, however people seem to like it).

So, yeah, for things non-specific to ELisp development (which is so far was everything you mentioned except ELisp debugging), you just need to start trying to do the development, and along the way to try to reflect "what I really wish I was able to do right now". Stuff like autocompletion, seeing function help in a minibuffer or elsewhere, going to definition… Whatever you think of, it is probably implemented in Emacs (with or without plugins), so you just try to search for it using your favorite search engine.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-21 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-21  5:07 Emacs development Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21  6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21  7:08   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21  7:16     ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-21  7:50       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21  7:54         ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-21  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 13:51           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 22:00           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-21  8:08         ` Stephen Berman
2021-08-21 12:05         ` Konstantin Kharlamov [this message]
2021-08-21 12:28           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21 14:08             ` Tim Cross
2021-08-21 15:00               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-21 23:09                 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22  1:26                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-22  2:25                     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22  2:15                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22  2:48                     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22  7:47                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22  8:11                         ` Tim Cross
2021-08-22 13:54                           ` T.V Raman
2021-08-22 16:04                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-22 16:19                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-22 16:23                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-22 16:25                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 16:43                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-22 16:29                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 17:08                               ` T.V Raman
2021-08-22 17:44                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 18:34                                   ` Stephen Berman
2021-08-22 23:12                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-23  9:17                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 14:41                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:07           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  8:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21  8:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-21  2:36 Sam Auciello
2015-02-21  3:52 ` Alexis
2015-02-21  8:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-21 10:07   ` Adam Sjøgren
2015-02-21 11:28     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-02-21 11:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-21 12:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-02-21 12:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-21 14:22             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-02-21 18:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-22 17:17                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-02-21 12:45         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-02-24 10:58     ` Filipp Gunbin

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