From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Can we go GTK-only? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:01 +0200 Message-ID: <22546.64965.400971.486724@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <24db2975-17ca-ad01-20c8-df12071fa89a@dancol.org> <83zilpro1f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477641973 7385 195.159.176.226 (28 Oct 2016 08:06:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 28 10:06:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Am-0008T2-Rs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:05:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47352 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Ap-0006TS-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:05:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56475) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Ag-0006TG-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:05:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Af-0002M7-Ck for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.132.3]:62206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c02AZ-0002IB-OF; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 04:05:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de (mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.27]) by mail.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u9S7R6uZ048751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de) Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u9S7R4tD093512; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de) Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u9S7R2on022347; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:02 +0200 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id u9S7R1D4022345; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83zilpro1f.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.27]); Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:27:05 +0200 (CEST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 134.93.132.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208928 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I don't know how wide Motif and Athena are used; IMO we shouldn't > delete them if they are still in use. E.g., are the major Linux > distros still offering such packages? Gentoo offers both, and looking at metadata in bugs reported to us, it appears that both of them are used by a significant fraction of users (in spite of GTK+ being the build option preferred by our ebuilds). Also, GTK+ (in version 2 or 3) still crashes for multi-tty Emacs, due to bug 85715 . Given that this has been reported 14 years ago, my guess is that it will never be fixed. Has anyone tried porting Emacs to Qt? :) Ulrich