From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bbdb.user Subject: Re: Adding BBDB 3 core to Emacs Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:02:09 +0900 Message-ID: <22097.26737.870404.583614@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <82mvuffcyc.fsf@jobim-via-gmail.com> <45822.7509.289752.22092@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <64270.20127.528598.22095@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <837flb46rd.fsf@gnu.org> <52708.83016.592199.22096@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448203119 24279 80.91.229.3 (22 Nov 2015 14:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 14:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , fitzsim@fitzsim.org, bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gmcninch@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 22 15:38:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a0VmY-00051B-7K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:38:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56275 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0VmY-0004tf-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45225) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0OfJ-0006Ts-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:02:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0OfI-0003Qw-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:02:25 -0500 Original-Received: from turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.96.25]:35248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0OfC-0003Q1-L2; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:02:18 -0500 Original-Received: from steve by turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Of3-0003ZU-TA; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:02:09 +0900 In-Reply-To: <52708.83016.592199.22096@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 698a9aa86de4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: steve@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 130.158.96.25 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:38:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195017 gmane.emacs.bbdb.user:4116 Archived-At: Roland Winkler writes: > No, you are perfectly right. BBDB v2 *did* have copyright issues. BBDB v3 still has issues, as it has a complex API which is under previous copyright AFAIK. > BBDB v3 on savannah.nongnu.org is essentially a complete rewrite, "Essentially" as understood by programmers is rarely anything close to what a lawyer thinks of as an independent work not considered a derivative. I doubt *any* of the newly assigned work was done without looking at the original, and very likely most still uses original internal variable names, structures, algorithms, etc. You'd better check with the lawyers.