From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 20:44:40 +0100 Message-ID: <21fe1e55-8a20-625f-08e2-69ff4cc503d2@gmx.at> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <874kknp1lq.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8135"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 25 20:47:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lFMby-00020Y-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 20:47:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54880 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFMbx-00060g-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:47:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34136) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFMZ6-0004UK-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:50057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFMZ5-0003zt-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:44:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1614282281; bh=Q8NEaqJYqfoLxzEhvDS+oRPCvXPCLqFnufjCsXrrk5U=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=aAtjcRzvy52bB3c7qoxHWbhZa1BKB/kVl/rR8W7J8KkFPFYQCehxT8Ycid6dnvbGZ /C34xYY6M5hDmOMDq52Uf+4TEKZN40o5HPpHK1BpzRP0Fxsd4eN7gCUfDHNz3yTzpd uS0R5QjL9UyPy+K7NLJL/imv6hH4H3CAWXwDQ4XE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.172]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MirjS-1liu1l13ZM-00exW9; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 20:44:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JtRdO4dayEJdB6gx85Qs2nYSyAx2F7MyYyxH2QjAc7zoVmAjW1A q+xAAKbhA0e69QmsVM5TaWhF/w2O0w7tzEmkh5s9RhKLf5xZaUMQxpCFpMimXFN8DLhCmAO BuH1qf7iNZ5ilieRH+jkddeEgOJ4BT5hUCpYr5Eok1HlDiTFvH45IsEM/sQAK/mmCkuT1ka v8JAtVhkB5Fwb6/b7rOqQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:l+LP71DklO8=:K7g8Tfybu2aQS/KsOavlc9 y9FxXwZ8rygbKBL17jvFZG1u5noNU9nw6CzAXqp+Ztd/cVwWZeweryUKbvy8dNf4WhYGOckkr aFHf06n1cMAmXC6bqtRhrVL94BAS17XvVPqsR+hqwSbuTDumFXPsa/FxXe3Mp8LpmeSeCjb0e 0TXuaiSGag10k851qwl2UkXg73bfHPvufi9jSii7NWVvwBo5tMPBP6HUblggGcjM9pT24PSp3 Tmnvgh7udEQykamYP2DOiOS0ChP5WGLGnv20Wh306Y0LCr6C0PW4GqdMfudmI0n9NWtQBUghh pYA3lLetDVhcbcaybOh2JeEHZ0H69aB+feUoGJhPffu4SZRls0ceht7rc3t4LEceS7zlnQpNm SeeCOubWcICbOOLuJ4OSqxDvLil5uJXeRg5LkMPQ5dPZDKZk8Hrfrr8WxbJokcSCaI4wxCZck Vi5+GDmZ3rCNzB5gC6BwSbAcmgL5VqkEuEpeHkCIIwLGk2Er4CtWyIV22CRnrnDlifPfD6ZZH 49WJe+PjInFGDzm9AQDbk2OCeiX186ya4TYii416vzH6aAUrwAF87enzVijrHFlWJfBGpZc7I UIvJKvLYdNzSuAJuMacuvYK1/tb0zt+ASSdw4pHrDs4EZX4AVy0VTQLH4lkzZK/ThCM9xK1OU 1OiFfHNzTEVmXmgYvWZCcALEqMMeVWhg4jR2FnwHYeAInaJEmxQJFFa3B3L5Sicq85njY73uQ a9/8S3UqeO3mqQLb8w49S2smH82Jx9hvbs1Kq5U0nu+gDGcXBiuMWVojQM/TdeaWxlb/RwsP Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=rudalics@gmx.at; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: 7 X-Spam_score: 0.7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265647 Archived-At: > One obvious drawback of this proposal is that it's slightly jarring when > the toolbar appears and disappears when switching between windows. Note that with GTK the outer frame shrinks/expands when the toolbar is removed/added. Not talking about the GTK3 warnings when the toolbar doesn't fit ... martin