From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APL mode Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:24:40 +0200 Message-ID: <2175241.EV4ttzPlpJ@descartes> References: <2556707.G5KkrEK5zp@descartes> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381677904 31288 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2013 15:25:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Rustom Mody To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 13 17:25:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNXT-0003Es-ND for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33400 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNXT-0004MJ-A3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45320) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNXK-0004Ly-Jo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNXD-0000HB-7L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:47315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVNXD-0000H3-16 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:24:47 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939FB2AED4; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:24:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Original-Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iUpDYzZzID7S; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:24:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F3ED2AE53; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:24:43 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: KMail/4.10.5 (Linux/3.8.0-30-generic; KDE/4.10.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 178.63.28.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164177 Archived-At: Hi, On Sunday 13 October 2013 20:17:04 Rustom Mody wrote: > I have one general question for you: Did you try Gnu-Apl under emacs?= > I personally find the xmodmap approach too invasive to be practicable= > -- everything other than the emacs-apl modes stop working! Not just > at the emacs level but even at the X level eg Alt-F2, Alt-F4 etc etc > So I feel we need to find an input-method approach which does not > disturb things too much outside the 2 buffers where its needed -- Apl= > file, Apl interpreter. so far I only tried GNU APL with inferior-apl-mode. Change `inferior-a= pl- program' to point to the GNU APL executable and start `inferior-apl'. I agree that the xmodmap approach isn't very practical. apl-input.el c= ontains=20 an input method for APL characters. You type $ followed by the name of= the=20 apl character unicode name. (It currently lacks characters outside the= APL=20 FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL namespace). This isn't very practical either. That'= s why=20 there is apl-input-x.el. Which adds a variety of different names to th= e input=20 method. E.g., ("<-" ?=E2=86=90) ("->" ?=E2=86=92) ("each" ?=C2=A8) ("&" ?=E2=88=A7) ("and" ?=E2=88=A7) ("nand" ?=E2=8D=B2) ("or" ?=E2=88=A8) ("nor" ?=E2=8D=B1) ("*" ?=C3=97) ("%" ?=C3=B7) ("/" ?=C3=B7) But it requires some more additions and fine tuning to be really useful= . I'm not very well experienced with APL and only did some APL for fun. = That's=20 why I might not be the best person to implement all of this. Regards, R=C3=BCdiger