From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:27:48 +0900 Message-ID: <21656.61252.857631.699732@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <5498C82D.5080605@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419308916 11053 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2014 04:28:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs-Devel devel , Lennart Borgman , Tom , Yuri Khan To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 23 05:28:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3H5A-0007Hu-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3H59-0006DX-LG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:28:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51207) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3H4q-0006DJ-Qd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3H4j-0000NJ-BO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:57671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3H4b-0000MH-5d; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:27:53 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 191BD1C38AC; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:27:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E80D61A2CFC; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:27:48 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <5498C82D.5080605@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180534 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > If one prefers a traditional manual, the use-Google approach can be > *really* annoying, as it tends to throw up all sorts of trash, and > I understand the annoyance. Really, I do. But what can I say? It > often works way better, and we should be exploiting this technology > rather than limiting ourselves to the not-particularly-successful > tactic of asking people to send us bug reports and fixes for our > manuals. Google search is (a) SaaS (although it is free as in Japanese sake) and (b) privacy-invading. You (and I!) may not care but Richard does. We should probably try duckduckgo as default.