From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ugly regexps Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 17:04:23 +0200 Message-ID: <215e7203-8f24-dda2-93b6-79b132aa3540@yandex.ru> References: <83pn0g6ajq.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9a8jj2x.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtvkjb6c.fsf@gnu.org> <96182b13-f921-6f91-0cdc-320f54ed16bf@yandex.ru> <469cc46c-5e0e-cd98-dc62-67f29139d9a2@yandex.ru> <20210304145018.GG22779@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16680"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 04 16:12:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lHpea-0004De-3I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 16:12:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37840 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHpeZ-0003p3-2G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:12:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36174) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHpWh-0001P2-Np for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:04:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32a]:54590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHpWf-0006E3-SA; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:04:31 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id u187so8335464wmg.4; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 07:04:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I5dFNSdRBEnLp8Ebxu/kWkhKy4TFbsALcaU2+Zkzqms=; b=TsWSAIAtYShiXzvnAvuBzyWgpB3MdsBx8XNGhsvcz0qBxDzfHMF/+uRGXMActTI3vq r6L8vELgwiJuyaIOqIVMhCgWNaZL3m1AbY0SKUEoTgysfCct1RVUuAUILJJfDsXNZLQL Yi9Ln3K/pJi7qEL9tjGuv7m/5Bxv4XWrOblXX4oaHdNu8AiWX1Krb4neokmldyeuxoyK 3XYlRF/Q9PwRrdNwO2o/8afde1uzkkZTBIGF2brEm3JoPIdtu/bymZHxSC9Z1aLtJTIR m5DBrMcFYPdohgz5vKnR1uEHtp7b9rz7zXqQKdlIphn0YzMCfsbgLw1KuJOJM8EvZJZ1 K+9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=I5dFNSdRBEnLp8Ebxu/kWkhKy4TFbsALcaU2+Zkzqms=; b=s2DmaEtVrfC0syFgT9IVWSI3jTFSPdH6EwP4xGM2wPgMooZf0UK1tOhpvgyF7+DtMZ U8Pl6TDOpkdyUJPEu46RqefjT+Y8SJLs7+LzspETRHoDA5NPAQVBpLpJSZhQUU2GuyqC YGGzXi8twnRJskkQj2ZRedmbarN+neoYYFxQWYuWQG5cMBPkaBdJRp7M4Rcj7v57UP/y BvGVMdXeUCRLPKcb2I0pDe7bDVER7laVYaDrqqxsU15fAz5yJp53E0nuByZcNXoMdP70 OHRlKXc7HCQVk2Zfi2d6272XQpRmtWVuXo8Uxqeu67kZiMVMOV7IDapHLAlz9JRoLtlh X7LA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532HgNIfzbdsknsJhmJdRbjqavH7sR52s9hEh0RjnsHNvi2/Q+gH j9Lm5Udvb7J9F3B31dU9s+E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzh1rG7QmZJoJhZpclzhVDr3AUKBsDVfE8Gz4jOdPPcsQB2564uR1iHOkei5/8UT22+5tppgQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:e912:: with SMTP id q18mr4399241wmc.59.1614870267526; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 07:04:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v7sm3758624wme.47.2021.03.04.07.04.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Mar 2021 07:04:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20210304145018.GG22779@tuxteam.de> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32a; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265962 Archived-At: On 04.03.2021 16:50, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > Please, be gentle. I think this is an unfair depiction of what Eli is > doing here. Yes, it was harsh, and it doesn't happen every single time, but it happens enough that I can feel overwhelmed and have to choose something else to do with my time. And it's not like it's easy to forget all the previous times it happened (unresolved bugs have a way of keeping one's attention returning to them). > Granted, he's not always easy to convince -- but I think > that's part of his job as a maintainer. If only it didn't step on, repeatedly, on my job as a maintainer. And feeling powerless (while still bearing responsibility) is not a great position to be in. > And he has nearly infinite > patience in following up on discussions. Just read the comments in that bug report.