From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2023 14:13:58 +0000 Message-ID: <215b00d2595bec215977@heytings.org> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <121acd3282a64abf77d6@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40879"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 01 16:14:46 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbN7-000APd-Ly for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 16:14:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbMR-0006Ns-Mc; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbMQ-0006Ne-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFbMO-0004D5-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:14:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1688220839; bh=7BCAwbMFQSFfmQs5JzHzArUSmvS5/B1l+xzhobJEvqY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=SKcAwxirj9Dn2wuNv0mb2ra4nNYhOIrhibtVgTBJAgVFK4ySIyYYIeNA51uI/zzbu N3MRMrxWl37sczPVdi5Vco7i9HU+kohXbMgIC8aDBn+LEfKjqOWeCyaoD6YEff5IOF eBygru7ZOBlUzaSzsmosMz5S3iCtCcQkM2DRNe9QpWQj3hp9PFPGZIAWkOmpRXJOJD 1L/oHd9wt2OjXJZUdVeugBHI5aaGulxh5W2D26jH0gRQlfrgUzH+4Eyg1PQLeBNxmh Q3IFYo3iZ2wA0xNikBXmH7Wu0qIuq12z2YvbaJ6tQXljIrGwcEE8Ebsd8RIoTRDGnD qaYWnxGTxFcQw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307328 Archived-At: >> There is another data point that should, I believe, be mentioned: users >> who want to run Emacs on an Android device can already do so, with both >> its TUI and GUI, without any changes whatsoever on the Emacs side. > > FWIW, I tried to use that but found it unbearable. I can't remember all > the annoyances, but there were many, and AFAIK there is no way for *us* > to fix them. > Many users try to use Emacs and find it unbearable ;-) More seriously, IMO "unbearable" is too vague. Which X server did you try, with which keyboard if you used a soft keyboard, and with which Emacs version? And which annoyances do you remember? The Termux:X11 X server is under active development, so I'd suggest to try again, and to report the annoyances you still experience.