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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Goals for repo conversion day
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:14:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21223.26331.515767.287399@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140127132215.GA1602@thyrsus.com>

>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Eric S. Raymond wrote:

> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>:
>> There is one more thing in the history that may be worth fixing,
>> though it may lead to quite a bit of manual work. Before emacs
>> switched to CVS the sources were kept in RCS, and files were
>> deleted by renaming the RCS file prefixing its name with "=" (to
>> keep the history, since RCS doesn't have the concept of an attic
>> like CVS). The obstacle is that there is no record of this deletion
>> except in the ChangeLog file, and at that time the ChangeLog files
>> weren't kept in RCS (they were versioned by numbered backups only).
>> So in order to find the exact point in time when the file has been
>> deleted for real one would have to grep the ChangeLog file for
>> mentioning the deletion and look up the surrounding text in the
>> commit log. For example, the file lisp/speedbspec.el only exists as
>> lisp/=speedbspec.el in the current history, added in commit
>> 73bf48f. The next mentioning of the string "speedbspec.el" was in
>> commit ab18f00, which corresponds to the point where the file was
>> deleted. The corresponding changelog file (lisp/ChangeLog.7) has
>> this entry:
>>
>> 1998-07-10  Eric M. Ludlam  <zappo@ultranet.com>
>> 
>>         * speedbspec.el: Deleted; now integrated into speedbar.el.
>>         * speedbar.el: More commentary.
>>
>> Note that the first line of the entry isn't mentioned in commit
>> ab18f00, but we now know that the file was deleted here. The next
>> commit touching this file is 1c3e7fb with the message "properly
>> mark Attic files as deleted", where the file was finally deleted
>> from the tree.

> Yuck.

> Fortunately, I have a search primitive that will find all these
> instances.

So, this will take care of deleted files. However, I wonder how
renaming of files was handled in pre-CVS times? My guess would be that
the RCS file would have been renamed. How could one find out if and
when this happened?

Ulrich



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-28  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-24 16:29 The git mirror is *very* badly screwed up Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-24 16:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-24 17:07   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-24 17:22     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-24 18:54       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-24 20:03         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-24 21:06         ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-24 21:27         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25  6:25           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-25  7:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25 14:06               ` Goals for repo conversion day Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-25 14:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25 14:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25 16:01                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-25 16:15                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-25 17:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25 21:01                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-26 17:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-27  0:33                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-27  5:16                             ` Werner LEMBERG
2014-01-27 16:31                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-27 17:42                                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2014-01-27 17:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-27 10:04                             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-27 13:22                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-28  8:14                                 ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2014-01-28  8:58                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-28  9:07                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-01-28 15:40                                     ` What to do about the attic files Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-27 16:25                             ` Goals for repo conversion day Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-27 16:28                             ` Bzr's "confusion" between branches and repositories Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-27 16:47                               ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-27 16:53                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-27 17:15                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25 19:32                   ` Goals for repo conversion day Glenn Morris
2014-01-25 16:09                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-25 17:01                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-25 19:54                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-25 22:08                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-26  3:24                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-25 21:57             ` The git mirror is *very* badly screwed up Stefan Monnier
2014-01-25 23:27               ` Eric S. Raymond

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