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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317498 Archived-At: On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 18:47 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Konstantin Kharlamov > > Cc: rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, dmitry@gutov.dev, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 18:00:28 +0300 > > > > I hope now you understand why I'm saying Emacs doesn't fully > > support it > > =F0=9F=98=8A > > I don't.=C2=A0 I think you are plainly mistaken. Sure, that's a fair point, because if I consider something simple, that doe= sn't necessarily mean other people have the knowledge to think similarly. So to= explain why I was saying that here's some points from my previous email that clarif= y that: The point of "out of tree build" is encapsulating build artifacts in the bu= ild dir. Emacs has some build artifacts outside build dir, hence the "out of tree bu= ild" workflow is not working as expected. To understand what "out of tree build" means you need to understand what it= solves. Which you seem to understand already per prior discussion (but I may be mis= taken here, just tell me if that's so), so let me just add that "partial out of t= ree build" still has problems that "full out of tree build" solves. So there is only one kind of "out of tree build", the "full" one. The "par= tial" one should be explicitly specified as such, whereas saying "out of tree build" = without any prefix implies it is a "full" one. I hope now you understand why I'm saying Emacs doesn't fully support it =F0= =9F=98=8A