From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Elisp LSP Server Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:10:33 +0200 Message-ID: <2086087.T8BPgQIYYX@galex-713.eu> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <8735p8auan.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29834"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Philip Kaludercic , Richard Stallman , psainty@orcon.net.nz, Po Lu , joaotavora@gmail.com, Ag Ibragimov To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 11 11:12:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mZrLy-0007Vb-Ih for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:12:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43672 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZrLw-0002fQ-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZrKa-0001mu-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:51062 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZrKY-0000ga-KF; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mZrKM-0004TH-6I; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:10:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735p8auan.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276733 Archived-At: Le lundi 11 octobre 2021, 09:34:56 CEST Po Lu a =C3=A9crit : > Ag Ibragimov writes: > > Not quite. I'm not suggesting at all integrating with proprietary > > software. I'm merely curious if anyone has ever thought about > > implementing an LSP server for Emacs Lisp. LSP is a standard and an > > open specification. There already exist several dozen implementations > > of Language Protocol servers for many different languages. >=20 > But an LSP server for Emacs Lisp would, for the reasons you have > mentioned, be used for proprietary software. The ability of people to > utilize imenu in Emacs Lisp code on GitHub would encourage people to use > the proprietary software that GitHub requires. Seeing those regular discussions about anti-freedom interoperability=20 (while usually interoperability is a user freedom), I still hope that=20 there is a solution, such as copyleft was decades ago=E2=80=A6 and can=E2= =80=99t help but=20 think that if SSPL is juridically sound, it could help so (like, extending= =20 copyleft beyond dynamic linking, to general inter-process communication=20 and services). Has FSF advanced on that subject?