From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Elisp LSP Server Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:48:35 +0200 Message-ID: <2084557.4ekWRl67Yb@galex-713.eu> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87ee8ralew.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38467"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, psainty@orcon.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Po Lu , joaotavora@gmail.com, agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 14 14:49:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mb0B4-0009no-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:49:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49890 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb0B2-0000Bv-Sx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55726) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb0AD-0007w2-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:54686 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb0AC-0004Py-3z; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mb0A0-0001N2-1F; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:48:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277012 Archived-At: Le lundi 11 octobre 2021 23:16:31 CEST, vous avez =C3=A9crit : > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > We have not yet studied the SSPL. Many other things have seemed > to be higher priority. But since it has been rejected as "open source", > I suppose it won't qualify as free either. I wasn=E2=80=99t sure, and was hoping to see yet another occasion to show a= =20 distinction between free and open-source philosophy. The only case where=20 SSPL obligates the (non-end) user to do something, is actually in the=20 interest of the end-user=E2=80=A6 =E2=80=9Cif it=E2=80=99s the same service= , publish everything=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6 > I tend to think that trying to impose copyright-based rules > that stretch beyond the bounds of one single program > is abuse of copyright, based on what I learned in the past. That may be very wise. But I=E2=80=99m not sure=E2=80=A6 What if such a thing was used for a GCC LSP-server? THAT would be=20 extreeemely useful, and was never done because proprietary software is so=20 ubiquitous that it would benefit proprietary software=E2=80=A6 because curr= ently=20 dynamic linkage between gcc and emacs would be fine because it would force= =20 both to be free, while the *same usage* using a binary-agnostic protocol=20 would not spread the GPL=E2=80=A6 to me it seems non-technical, and it=E2= =80=99s=20 preventing technical integration between GNU software so=E2=80=A6