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From: Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, psainty@orcon.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
	joaotavora@gmail.com, agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Elisp LSP Server
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:48:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2084557.4ekWRl67Yb@galex-713.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ma2et-0006Bw-EG@fencepost.gnu.org>

Le lundi 11 octobre 2021 23:16:31 CEST, vous avez écrit :
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> 
> We have not yet studied the SSPL.  Many other things have seemed
> to be higher priority.  But since it has been rejected as "open source",
> I suppose it won't qualify as free either.

I wasn’t sure, and was hoping to see yet another occasion to show a 
distinction between free and open-source philosophy.  The only case where 
SSPL obligates the (non-end) user to do something, is actually in the 
interest of the end-user… “if it’s the same service, publish everything”…

> I tend to think that trying to impose copyright-based rules
> that stretch beyond the bounds of one single program
> is abuse of copyright, based on what I learned in the past.

That may be very wise.  But I’m not sure…

What if such a thing was used for a GCC LSP-server? THAT would be 
extreeemely useful, and was never done because proprietary software is so 
ubiquitous that it would benefit proprietary software… because currently 
dynamic linkage between gcc and emacs would be fine because it would force 
both to be free, while the *same usage* using a binary-agnostic protocol 
would not spread the GPL…  to me it seems non-technical, and it’s 
preventing technical integration between GNU software so…



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-14 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 332+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-28  0:38 Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Phil Sainty
2021-09-28  5:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-28  7:26   ` João Távora
2021-09-30  6:03   ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-30  8:20     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 10:31       ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 10:54         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-30 11:18           ` João Távora
2021-09-30 11:40             ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 16:58             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-30 20:25               ` João Távora
2021-10-01  3:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-30 11:30           ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 17:37             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-30 11:46         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 12:41           ` João Távora
2021-09-30 13:00             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 13:26               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 14:26                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 14:57                   ` João Távora
2021-09-30 15:50                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 16:02                       ` João Távora
2021-09-30 17:58                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 23:30                           ` João Távora
2021-10-04 15:29                   ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 13:18             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 13:31               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 13:41                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 16:23             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-30 17:19               ` João Távora
2021-10-01  1:20                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 22:10               ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 22:22                 ` A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master)) João Távora
2021-09-30 23:23                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 23:38                     ` João Távora
2021-10-01  1:17                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-01  7:02                       ` tomas
2021-10-01 13:15                         ` João Távora
2021-10-01 13:53                           ` tomas
2021-10-01 14:30                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-01 14:40                             ` João Távora
2021-10-01 15:48                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-01 16:05                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-01 16:11                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-01 16:41                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-01 23:17                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-02  1:14                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  1:46                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02  2:13                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-04 15:57                                           ` André A. Gomes
2021-10-02  1:05                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  1:30                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-02  1:43                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  2:05                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02  2:24                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  8:39                                           ` Adam Porter
2021-10-02  8:36                                 ` Adam Porter
2021-10-02 12:16                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02 23:18                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-03 21:17                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-07 22:21                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-18 21:13                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 21:22                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-20  6:45                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20  8:00                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-23 23:26                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-01 22:58                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-01 23:03                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-02  8:50                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 10:29                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-02 11:57                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 12:44                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02 14:50                                           ` João Távora
2021-10-02 15:01                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 15:22                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-02 15:33                                               ` But then what are namespaces ? (was: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master))) João Távora
2021-10-02 19:42                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 19:59                                                   ` But then what are namespaces ? Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 20:41                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 21:05                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 21:09                                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02 21:14                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 22:41                                                             ` João Távora
2021-10-02 22:49                                                               ` João Távora
2021-10-02 23:31                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-03 21:47                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 20:00                                                   ` But then what are namespaces ? (was: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master))) João Távora
2021-10-02 20:41                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 20:46                                                       ` João Távora
2021-10-03  1:15                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-02 15:25                                             ` A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master)) João Távora
2021-10-02 16:08                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-01 22:58                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-01 23:10                             ` João Távora
2021-10-02  9:03                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 10:25                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-01 23:04                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 12:34         ` Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-28  6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28  7:41   ` João Távora
2021-09-28  8:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28  8:07     ` Helmut Eller
2021-10-02  1:06       ` João Távora
2021-09-28 12:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 15:28     ` João Távora
2021-09-28 19:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 17:25   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 18:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 19:05       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 19:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 12:23           ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-30 12:28             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 12:29               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 12:44             ` Joost Kremers
2021-09-30 13:18               ` Adam Porter
2021-10-01  0:11                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-30 12:52             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 12:55               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 13:49                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 13:17             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-01  0:21               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 14:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 14:27               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 22:50               ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-01  0:44                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-01  7:06                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-01  7:24                     ` João Távora
2021-10-01 10:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-01  6:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-01 12:24                   ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-01 13:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02  0:28                       ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-02  6:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02  7:44                           ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-02  8:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02 10:52                             ` João Távora
2021-10-04  0:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-04  0:16                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-04 13:09                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-04 15:44                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-04 16:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 17:43                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-04 17:51                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 18:34                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-04 19:15                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-04 19:30                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-05 21:20                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 13:12                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-05 21:20                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 21:20                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 22:07                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-05 22:15                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 11:28                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-06 12:21                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 12:30                                             ` João Távora
2021-10-06 12:46                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 13:16                                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-06 16:23                                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-06 20:00                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 21:10                                                       ` João Távora
2021-10-06 21:39                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-10 21:09                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-07 22:21                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-07 22:24                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-08  6:08                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 12:58                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-08 13:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-10 21:06                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-10 21:18                                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-08 14:16                                               ` João Távora
2021-10-08 15:55                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-08 17:34                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 18:16                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-08 18:51                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 23:43                                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-01 22:38             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-01 22:41               ` João Távora
2021-10-01 22:52               ` João Távora
2021-10-01 23:52               ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-02  1:38               ` T.V Raman
2021-09-28 19:30         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28 18:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 19:14       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 19:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 19:31           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 19:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 22:10         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-30 23:59           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-28  7:21 ` João Távora
2021-09-28 12:49   ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-28 13:08     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28 14:04       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-28 15:01         ` Adam Porter
2021-09-28 15:20       ` João Távora
2021-09-28 19:23         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-28 15:15     ` João Távora
2021-09-30  6:06     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05  5:57       ` Elisp LSP Server Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-05  6:38         ` Po Lu
2021-10-05  9:50           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-05 11:27             ` Po Lu
2021-10-05 11:46               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-06 20:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 21:22                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-06 21:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-07 22:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-07  0:49                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-10 12:48                     ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-10 14:19                       ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-10 16:49                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-10 19:25                           ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-11  7:44                         ` Po Lu
2021-10-11 21:15                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  5:29                           ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12  5:48                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-12 17:14                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12 17:46                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 20:53                                   ` dick
2021-10-13  2:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 11:56                                       ` dick
2021-10-13 13:19                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13  4:47                                   ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-13  0:02                                 ` Po Lu
2021-10-27 14:36                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-27 18:04                                   ` dick
2021-10-27 18:27                                     ` tomas
2021-10-27 18:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 18:55                                     ` Karl Fogel
2021-10-27 19:15                                       ` dick
2021-10-12  7:14                             ` tomas
2021-10-12  8:04                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12 22:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13  5:36                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-13 22:40                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12 22:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13  3:42                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-13  5:20                                 ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 12:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 12:49                                     ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 13:25                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 13:37                                         ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 13:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 23:42                                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 13:38                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-14 22:22                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-14 22:26                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-15  6:35                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15  9:54                                         ` Tim Cross
2021-10-10 23:45                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-11  7:34                       ` Po Lu
2021-10-11  9:10                         ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-11 10:46                           ` Po Lu
2021-10-11 10:48                             ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-11 21:16                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  7:17                               ` tomas
2021-10-14 12:48                               ` Alexandre Garreau [this message]
2021-10-15 22:47                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-11 21:10                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-22 16:23                       ` Mathias Dahl
2021-10-22 16:40                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-22 16:45                           ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-22 19:59                             ` Tim Cross
2021-10-22 22:27                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-22 22:48                                 ` Tim Cross
2021-10-22 23:11                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-23 23:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25  7:47                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-23  2:00                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-25  2:17                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25  7:00                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-22 16:55                           ` Mathias Dahl
2021-10-22 20:55                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-25  2:17                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25  7:22                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-25  7:45                                 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-10-25  7:51                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-25  8:23                                     ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-10-30  6:51                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-01 11:48                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-01 17:47                                     ` Tim Cross
2021-11-03  3:18                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-03 20:06                                       ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2021-11-05  3:53                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-05  5:55                                           ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05  6:25                                             ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2021-11-05  9:56                                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-25  5:46               ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2021-10-06 20:57             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 21:35               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-05 10:15         ` Joost Kremers
2021-10-06 20:57           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  2:52             ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12  3:37               ` dick
2021-10-12  3:43               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 22:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  4:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12  5:55               ` Po Lu
2021-10-12  7:22                 ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12 10:21                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-12 12:14                     ` tomas
2021-10-12 12:51                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-12 13:08                         ` tomas
2021-10-12 12:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12 22:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13  0:00                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-13  0:22                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-13  0:31                   ` Tim Cross
2021-10-13 17:15                     ` Joost Kremers
2021-10-13 17:34                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-13 20:00                         ` Tim Cross
2021-10-13 21:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 23:14                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-14  6:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  6:58                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-14  6:52                           ` Po Lu
2021-10-14 11:08                             ` dick
2021-10-14 13:34                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-10-14  8:20                         ` João Távora
2021-10-15 22:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-16 19:02                             ` João Távora
2021-10-17 23:49                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-17 23:58                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-20 22:33                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-18  0:32                                 ` Tim Cross
2021-10-18  1:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18  2:23                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-18 12:43                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 13:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  7:01                       ` Po Lu
2021-10-14  8:43                         ` [OT] Elisp as a general purpose programming language (was: Elisp LSP Server) Joost Kremers
2021-10-14 10:37                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-10-14  7:03                     ` Elisp LSP Server Po Lu

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