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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301922 Archived-At: On 12/21/22 15:08, João Távora wrote: >On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 2:57 PM Juanma Barranquero wrote: > >> I don't think we've added use-package to the Emacs core with the hope that >> people will use it less than they do ;-) >> > >Yeah, I know. But maybe we didn't quite consider the ~30 >commands or so that it provides to do things already possible >with well-understood primitives that have existed forever. > >I don't have a problem with people using it, just as I don't have >a problem with people using Magit, which I also don't. It's just >I plan to kindly ask the potential bug-reporter to show his minimal >configuration in terms of stuff I can unequivocally understand >the semantics of. > >João use-package is a macro, so if someone uses use-package to configure the package, when he needs to debug (for example minimal configuration), he can always present the expanded form. (which basically just expands to stuffs like setq, autoload, add-hook stuffs).