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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297857 Archived-At: Maybe so, but in my opinion you assume those projects will have the longev= ity of Emacs, yet it is quite likely for them to jump on to the next big thing in editor tech in a few years. Maybe they will even decide that there are be= tter ways to add code intelligence to editors than JSON producing servers? All I am saying is that it is nice to add tree-sitter and lsp to Emacs, ye= t being too dependent on them in major modes is not. On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:19:19 +0530 Payas Relekar wrote: > Ketevan Lomidze writes: > > > Are you guys aware that tree-sitter is developed by one person who is = now in a > > company to develop their own commercial text editor? Is it wise to dep= end on > > such external projects and to neglect your own major modes? > > Isn't that guaranteed to keep the person employed and tree-sitter > development ongoing since their new product depends on it? > > Besides, tree-sitter the technology has been *very* widely adopted. > Besides NeoVim integration, it is already used by Github for code > highlight and quite a few LSP servers also wrap it for parsing the file > for font lock etc. > > It has become very much de-facto standard in its own niche and with such > a level of adoption, I would not worry about it being abandoned. > > --