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From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: Re: Select completions from the minibuffer
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 16:46:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220322154637.i3hqnxhffme3uuiu@Ergus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831qyuf3e0.fsf@gnu.org>

BTW Eli:

Some of the new and old completions customs have some name miss-matches:
some of them are called completion-something and some others are
completions-something in plural.

There are some of them with `:group 'completion` while others don't have
that... could you please check if the names could be standardized and
may be added to the right group??

Specially the options I added I am not sure if they are well named and
for sure they don't have a group name...



On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 04:49:59PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:18:15 +0100
>> From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
>> Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> >  +@code{t} the completions are hidden when some unique completion is
>> >  +executed.
>> >
>> >What do you mean by "unique completion is executed"?  Both the
>> >"unique" and the "executed" parts need clarification.
>> >
>> unique means that, there is a single candidate o prefix so the <tab>
>> "added" some letter. example: com<tab>pi<tab> -> compil
>>
>> The first tab shows completions but the second hides it... it is a bit
>> confusing compared to any other completion engine (bash, zsh,
>> fish)... that's why I started this changes...
>
>So we could simply say
>
>  when Emacs is able to complete some characters
>
>is that right?
>
>> > If @code{completion-auto-help} is set to @code{always}, the
>> >  +completion commands are always shown after a completion attempt, or
>> >
>> >"Commands"? didn't you mean "candidates" or "alternatives"?  (The same
>> >problem exists in the doc string of this variable, btw.)
>> >
>> Maybe candidates is better,
>
>If it's just "better", then please explain what you mean by
>"commands".  The text I quoted above says "the completion commands are
>always shown".  What are those "commands" that are shown after a
>completion attempt?
>
>> >  If the value is @code{visible}, Emacs displays completion the
>> >  completion alternatives when it is unable to complete for the first
>> >  time; thereafter the completion list buffer remains visible and is
>> >  updated as you type.
>> >
>> >Is this accurate and correct?
>> >
>> "and is updated as you type."
>>
>> I am not sure that last part is accurate. updates need <tab> to update
>> in all cases. "as you type" suggests more an icomplete-like behavior I
>> thinks.
>
>Ok, so "the completion list buffer remains visible for all the
>subsequent completion attempts".  Better?
>
>> >  +current completion candidate will be highlighted with that face.  The
>> >  +default value is @code{completions-highlight}.  When the value is
>> >  +@code{nil}, no highlighting is performed.  This feature sets the text
>> >  +property @code{cursor-face}.
>> >
>> >This should explain what is "the current completion candidate".  It
>> >isn't trivial: trying the current defaults with completion commands, I
>> >sometimes see a candidate highlighted, and sometimes don't.  I
>> >couldn't figure out why.
>> >
>>
>> when it is not highlighting? So far the only way to not have a candidate
>> highlighted is when there is not candidate effectively selected (like
>> when completions are just updated (with no completion-auto-select) and
>> the cursor is before the help line; I that case there is not "current
>> candidate"); a return in that moment won't execute anything because
>> there is nothing to select, so "current completion candidate" means
>> that... Maybe you have a better way to explain it?
>
>Wouldn't it make sense to move point to the first candidate, so that
>some candidate is always highlighted?
>
>Btw, when a candidate is highlighted, it is always the first one in
>the list, which kinda makes me wonder why this highlighting is useful,
>if it always shows the candidate in a fixed location on display?
>
>> Please if you have the time change it... Otherwise I will do in some
>> days.
>
>Will do.
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-22 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 18:58 Select completions from the minibuffer Juri Linkov
2022-03-10 19:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-10 19:51   ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-10 20:32     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-11  8:58       ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-12 17:08         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-12 18:55           ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-13 14:05             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-13 18:05               ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-14  9:13                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-21 19:28                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-21 19:30                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-22  8:24                       ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-22 13:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-22 13:44                           ` Eric S Fraga
2022-03-22 14:18                           ` Ergus
2022-03-22 14:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-22 15:21                               ` Ergus
2022-03-22 18:38                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-22 19:07                                   ` Ergus
2022-03-22 19:24                                   ` Ergus
2022-03-23  8:47                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-23 12:07                                       ` Ergus
2022-03-23 18:28                                         ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-24  9:07                                           ` Ergus
2022-03-22 15:46                               ` Ergus [this message]
2022-03-22 16:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-22 17:10                                   ` Ergus
2022-03-22 17:58                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-22 17:56                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-22 17:23                         ` Ergus
2022-03-22 17:52                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-22 18:31                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-14  8:41               ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-14  9:08                 ` Ergus
2022-03-14 18:19                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-14 19:46                     ` Ergus
2022-03-14 20:58                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-14 22:28                         ` Ergus
2022-03-14 22:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-15 15:22                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-14 19:34                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-17 18:01                     ` Ergus
2022-03-17 18:47                     ` Ergus
2022-03-17 20:56                       ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-17 21:26                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-17 21:33                           ` Ergus
2022-03-17 22:44                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-17 22:44                         ` Ergus
2022-03-18  6:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-17 23:10                         ` Ergus
2022-03-18  6:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-18 11:16                             ` Ergus
2022-03-18 11:33                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-18 12:04                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-18 12:11                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-18 12:23                                 ` Ergus
2022-03-18 12:35                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-18 12:38                                     ` Ergus
2022-03-18 12:57                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-18  9:27                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-18 11:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-18 11:53                             ` Ergus
2022-03-18 12:06                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-18 21:31                             ` Ergus
2022-03-19 19:03                               ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-19 20:43                                 ` Ergus
2022-03-19 20:46                                 ` Ergus
2022-03-20 18:42                                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-20 22:00                                     ` Ergus
2022-03-21  8:32                                       ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-18 12:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-18 12:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-12  0:14       ` Ergus
2022-03-12 17:04         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-12 17:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-12 17:37             ` Ergus
2022-03-12 18:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-12 19:30                 ` Ergus
2022-03-12 19:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 18:55                     ` Ergus
2022-03-13 17:47                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-13 18:52                     ` Ergus
2022-03-12 19:11         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-03-10 19:55   ` Drew Adams
2022-03-10 19:59     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-10 23:13       ` Drew Adams
2022-03-10 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-10 20:23   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-10 20:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-12 18:52       ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-12 19:16         ` Eli Zaretskii

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