From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:10:27 +0200 Message-ID: <20210828091027.GF29375@tuxteam.de> References: <87o89kw0hl.fsf@gnus.org> <0c369b25-aedd-1fdf-4813-503f27e42c7c@yandex.ru> <874kbbznwv.fsf@gmail.com> <8735qvwcqt.fsf@gmail.com> <877dg65j3d.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmtyezjr.fsf@gmail.com> <83eeaene73.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z0eOaCaDLjvTGF2l" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17327"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 11:11:30 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJuN6-0004Ik-Mg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:11:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53286 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJuN5-0002Ns-0g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 05:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJuMB-0001XV-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 05:10:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:49197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJuM9-0002NG-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 05:10:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=11PcmIJL2QyDWT9uNmVnCPnr5EaDJvf+RI0tnU180T0=; b=UFWd4DSyIzKbz+rAffX11pppu2bfFZ8Sy52pVJhmrRheyiJtab7tYU/+ryaZVBog7Rjs536sRt5SkMfIIN3VGW8zVmKxlVcURl/EmKy9OUkaCHBe52mnyzx+JGi79iqFjP2efy37sNfwLXMcV3tmj/F0u4Pcr5dLRjtQQudNlJ3ocObutv7+bfVS3pUxoEWxrxr7jSSqLWNAaW7lbuioaBKelVngHKRAvf8f8kkUgDEK0RWMbCb+YTe+eBYpoFxzIGW5ESuMOprPuYMgHgY8o6mA3rS75LaLrja11SA8bViW3e7ObJGl0GrOUKw56gFF18ZX59M24SKgJO02SoDHUA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1mJuM7-00010T-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:10:27 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83eeaene73.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273261 Archived-At: --z0eOaCaDLjvTGF2l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:52:48AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Tim Cross > > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:53:34 +1000 > > Cc: Daniel Fleischer , emacs-devel@gnu.org > >=20 > > Despite what others have claimed, the security problems with email have > > NOT been addressed. It is still one of the major vectors for > > compromising access via social engineering [...] > And other means of communications aren't? Are there _any_ means that > are immune to these attacks? Yes, this made me wonder a bit, too, at how diverse perceptions can be. A code execution platform executing random scripts off the internet (aka Web browser) beats mail any day, in my view. Smartphone operating systems with their app "ecosystems" are fashioned after the same model. I'd have to see some statistics to support Tim's "major vector" assertion above. Cheers - t --z0eOaCaDLjvTGF2l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAmEp/YMACgkQBcgs9XrR2kY8mwCXcwssNhNHP4eCwA026m6MS8Bw dwCbBQmtbqbWuFiKav5gTz9ZjDIchHA= =DBCk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z0eOaCaDLjvTGF2l--