From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "tomas@tuxteam.de" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:08:50 +0200 Message-ID: <20210827170850.GD26152@tuxteam.de> References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <87o89kw0hl.fsf@gnus.org> <0c369b25-aedd-1fdf-4813-503f27e42c7c@yandex.ru> <874kbbznwv.fsf@gmail.com> <8735qvwcqt.fsf@gmail.com> <20210827082508.GC5381@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d01dLTUuW90fS44H" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8688"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 19:09:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJfMS-0001xi-Iy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:09:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45768 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJfMQ-0008UM-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48714) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJfLf-0007mW-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:47198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJfLY-0001VE-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:08:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=FGlQy2C1K1WPeEq+cfsGcWyMLmc1eJ3omLMHn6fgnao=; b=iaGf2Yz0P8/CpR6C9FcimmigACa1uRbYD6E2hMHHqQtt18yLf0awsy5laVSQaf8/KGr0FSfy/gXYXb1Sn6NmunAT7N0n2TRTIhHwuP1gpqcBcYDoADeANDp7AHkVktgQXxr+Sc6vAJlc0G0l8qkBoTYay7Cx9HqMT4V5mxOqp6916MGjALXtSs1eJrjFgCpvHpZSCFXtQ82iSp9ODo5ZV3zH4b19LEm9YDYZoMadoD5JzfwWjePEfdgc8kux02PFxyF1VVEXTU3f/O/NOzvohtVZ0FLxfVtvaZ2a1fggb5XH+sk5nDrJGvEFskCl4poyZ8CvXT2EfGV95KAjHCKsag==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1mJfLW-0007nv-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:08:50 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273173 Archived-At: --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 04:59:32PM +0000, Drew Adams wrote: > > > Yep, that mirrors what I'm seeing as well. Many younger users really = use > > > it primarily to provide a unique identifier (login) and for when they > > > have to deal with institutions that don't provide other alternatives. > >=20 > > I think part of the rush is nudge pressure applied by the Big Ones. > > It's not possible to monetise mail [...] [...] > Email is less of an Only-Mine-All-Mine!!! mine for > surveillance capitalism to mine. >=20 > And being still relatively new, the "instant > notification" of Slack etc. seems handy. Wait till > there's as much incoming traffic for you there, as > there is your email inbox. Heh. You also a Slack victim? When they introduced it at $COMPANY (before O365 took all), I decided that it violates the Convention of Geneva. Having a browser open all the time, OK. But having the browser bouncing up'n down while I try to concentrate on a database schema... that's cruel ;-) (I don't work for $COMPANY anymore). Cheers - t --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAmEpHCIACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZBKACdHytROAuWmKbCAGWCIhtI0zg0 Ml8Ani4sXLeV9GXlCLDwOC6ap059aiSV =N3fA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d01dLTUuW90fS44H--