From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Concern about new binding. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263763 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:10:06PM +0000, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >I agree with you that these free slots should probably be used as >prefix commands. I also agree with you that revert-buffer is perhaps >not useful enough to use a single letter C-x slot. I would suggest >something like: > >C-x g c = clone-buffer >C-x g d = diff-buffers >C-x g f = fit-frame-to-buffer >C-x g h = hexl-mode >C-x g i = insert-buffer >C-x g l = font-lock-mode >C-x g n = rename-buffer >C-x g r = revert-buffer >C-x g R = revert-buffer-with-fine-grain >C-x g t = toggle-truncate-lines > >and so forth. > Hi Gregory: Here I totally agree with you. Personally I prefer to keep the `C-x g` free; BUT if it is going to be taken, then we should use a map and not a single command (specially not one so unhelpful) I won't send any other email about this because I tend to spam too much. But Eli, Stefan, Lars... Do you approve this change? At least revert the binding? Because if we forget this now, after some time it will require deprecation and years... Best, Ergus