From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ai_flags in calls to getaddrinfo, broader call for reproducibility check Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:56:18 +0100 Message-ID: <20210112115618.GC22558@tuxteam.de> References: <83sg7mggls.fsf@gnu.org> <83czymc8nq.fsf@gnu.org> <74b7a0a9-0eb3-7944-19d2-f72424ee72d7@dasyatidae.com> <83eeirfqbo.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8hvscfi.fsf@gmail.com> <86o8hv9gds.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfcy1obq.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="raC6veAxrt5nqIoY" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20444"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 12 12:57:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kzIIr-00059d-PX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:57:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49386 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzIIq-0003N9-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 06:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzIHn-0001uu-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 06:56:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:55329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kzIHj-0002Pd-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 06:56:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=lNIfnJum+O//rhBHZ6PD98gwbs8SKT1SrtXMVQfCgwI=; b=Hx1o/Af9O3ZRwDAEH8QRYWqDloFx/TjmQuVWZwzAXVUnKY7XhL6Rp59xgdOcgUHBfHlQfoBirFdOhr7LYJeZU7UoRYx5AW+vW9YHprWcjmn18c364mORNqQEy6PkP8ODlj+dRo83JUocyjYoCvYQ/4rsiW5yC27pl0r/2YGI+KD9oCXFvxp67x92cQUfq/22yNRpHCrqL3QhUcculalrOVSBrBY5JqFXEm1IrBauU0sArpTgJMbGNXVlhgAM0fZV3W7e3mah89lAKQQM0aLFFeXmAf+E6wKKRvRNXId+Xpij1UCRQ249KRZKLzzMczB+KuDt+gh+h2z8hsZjhB0x4w==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kzIHa-0007gy-3e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:56:18 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87lfcy1obq.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262968 Archived-At: --raC6veAxrt5nqIoY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 10:44:57AM +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: [...] > > It would be better if the tests did not rely on external connectivity, > > and did not need to contact google.com gratuitously. > > > > AndyM >=20 > They don=CA=BCt contact google.com, they perform DNS lookups on > google.com. The connectivity tests we have connect to localhost. >=20 > External connectivity is one of the big features of Emacs, it should > be tested by the test suite. Agreed. Still, it would be nice if there were alternatives to google more in resonance with Emacs; perhaps, since (arguably) DNS resolution of such a behemoth as Google would be more reliable than everyone else, we might need a couple of alternatives. Gnu.org comes to mind, but perhaps debian.org, wikipedia.org or archive.org might qualify? I don't have the chops to assess the ramifications of this -- perhaps something for a discussio (not necessarily in this thread). Cheers -- t --raC6veAxrt5nqIoY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl/9jmIACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaRpwCfVogJvYJmh79qcgKixxD6Cnis OakAniz5coir2mlpRE4/nthZ6KbHPQAM =sSyc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --raC6veAxrt5nqIoY--