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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260630 Archived-At: On 2020-12-09 23:35, Richard Stallman wrote: > > 2) The acceptance or candidacy process for each package should be > > documented in some discrete method. > > Whether to have a certain package in NonGNU ELPA could be a touchy > question, in some borderline cases. Stating the reasons could perhaps > hurt feelings, or lead to arguments. So it is best not to do that. > We will add a package or we won't. This speaks to emacs/GNU/FSF "corporate culture" and really has much wider consequences than for non-GNU ELPA, so I'll fork my comment in response into a new thread. > > 3) After a package is initially accepted to the repository, the > > summaries of Richard Stallman's presentation indicate that subsequent > > commits or releases may be rejected or modified. That record should > > also be documented. > > It could be a good idea to document the reasons for decisions like these. > Future maintainers will need to understand this. > > I don't think we should make a commitment to publish this without exception, > but usually there will be no reason not to.