From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an emacs-humanities mailing list Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:57:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20201201085735.GC26076@tuxteam.de> References: <10e79eeb32b5d8f49453fe62f145172d@skeletons.cc> <87pn3vr605.fsf@red-bean.com> <837dq3ldvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2ijo3tr.fsf@red-bean.com> <87eekao7qq.fsf@red-bean.com> <2a314856-5655-4479-9bc4-d8f60cb14af3@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m51xatjYGsM+13rf" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13518"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 09:58:29 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1UT-0003R3-SI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 09:58:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42454 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1US-00049Z-Tx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1Th-0003Kj-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:44703) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1Te-0002oN-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:57:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=ID+dJSY7SCgQeNFidqFjXk1JenEgPcujVuAIX5oTaHI=; b=MMj2beUF/hHH9JvkunyVCkuGG3a/1YFLt+6nf8nU2T87zj/UnNjNLTO2hLqX+/npzbc2riZPR59AFg1RWeA3fEo+Y1QvimpbKhLUcmx3kXKJDYN3yAAVhawjXRlS+yO6ImcqcxLpSNnV1qzr7ddmUc/CuiH1WOA6v3hQg6tuihVKy1Eiu4NFHiRiWNhivjKIm4z0LBR24kSrDj876gl/NMOcTCxdAxhQRsE6sPSKZ9ySIVvxILhuMfNrUxKH46t/Xo6yM15tpKQiEl1mg5Z5Pi0c3NGdqWCouGDeAPdBf2WfWI4bDcPWOU9tG/r01PlxOgJuB9C6vhZQo66dA5D+dQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1Tb-00071z-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 09:57:35 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a314856-5655-4479-9bc4-d8f60cb14af3@default> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260110 Archived-At: --m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 03:17:23PM -0800, Drew Adams wrote: > Chiming in here, but not with a strong opinion... [...] > An alternative might be to start by inviting potential > "humanities" participants to use help-gnu-emacs (or > emacs-tangents?), but with a particular prefix in the > Subject line. If volume becomes reasonably high then > a new mailing list could be spun off to handle it (but > with the attendant lack of visibility to some that I > mentioned above). At first blush a good idea. After giving it a second thought, I think one of the strong points of a separate list might be that non-hackers (by which I mean those that consider themselves to be non-hackers!) might feel intimidated by volume, style or content (or all three!) of help-gnu-emacs. I concur that the cost of setting up a new mailing list is minimal. Perhaps... to reassure those fearing lots of "empty" lists, perhaps it should be wise to sketch some kind of "teardown procedure": six months after set up, if less than N mails per time unit have been seen, a teardown message is sent. If nobody complains, the list is shut down. Or something. But then perhaps this is just one more sticky bit of red tape. 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