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From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
To: Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Support "\n" in icomplete-separator
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 07:17:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201114061735.wm3tgh72eesyg6jp@Ergus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zh3l3t8t.fsf@gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:18:58PM +0200, Andrii Kolomoiets wrote:
>Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> We are not talking about the default completion in this thread, we are
>> talking about icomplete-mode and its ilk.  They work differently, and
>> in particular do show completion candidates automatically in the
>> minibuffer.
>>
>>> > Without seeing the possible answers, what are your chances of knowing
>>> > what to type?
>>>
>>> Chances are pretty good: I'll press TAB to see the *Completions* buffer.
>>
>> Pressing TAB seems to be against the philosophy of icomplete, ivy, and
>> similar features, at least AFAIU: they display the candidates without
>> any prior request by the user.
>
>Among icomplete, ivy and ido modes only ivy is overriding TAB key.  With
>icomplete and ido the overlay text is not the _only_ way of knowing what
>inputs are acceptable.  Seems like they has nothing against using TAB to
>complete text.
>
Ivy has ivy-partial-or-done bind to tab by default. Which completes
common part or open on single alternative with the default action
(find-file for file; dired for directories...).

But it is possible to bind tab to ivy-partial in ivy-minibuffer-map
instead. Then you have only completion on tab which is probably more
familiar for shell users, and a more predictable behavior. Actually the
most opposed completion system to use tabs is helm not ivy ;p



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-14  6:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-05 23:10 [PATCH] Support "\n" in icomplete-separator Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-05 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06  0:04   ` Ergus
2020-11-06  2:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06  8:42     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-06 10:26   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-05 23:57 ` Ergus
2020-11-06  8:43   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-06 12:36   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-06 15:15     ` Ergus
2020-11-08 20:14       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-08 20:30         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-08 20:36           ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-09  3:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-09 21:04           ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 15:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 17:18               ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 18:18                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11  9:41                   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 18:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 19:17                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-10 19:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 20:00                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-10 21:09                   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-11  8:27                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11  9:07                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 15:57                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11  9:38                       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-11 10:01                         ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 10:21                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 10:53                             ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 11:22                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 15:49                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 15:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 16:16                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 17:06                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 17:28                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 16:05                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 17:06                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 17:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-11 17:37                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 15:32                             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 15:26                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 16:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 17:12                             ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 17:19                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-11-11 17:44                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 17:50                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-11-11 18:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 18:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 18:39                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 20:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 20:37                                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-11 21:55                                       ` Ergus
2020-11-11 22:26                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 22:59                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-12  3:28                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12  8:50                                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12  9:13                                           ` on helm substantial differences - " Jean Louis
2020-11-12  9:20                                             ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12 10:25                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-12 10:54                                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12 11:33                                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-12 14:40                                                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12 17:46                                                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-12 14:41                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 17:49                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-12 17:58                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 14:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 15:05                                             ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12 15:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 16:10                                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12 17:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 12:40                                                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-13 12:59                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 13:36                                                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-13 13:52                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 15:09                                                             ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-13 16:05                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 17:31                                                                 ` Stephen Berman
2020-11-16 10:24                                                             ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-16 17:44                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 11:51                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12  7:58                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-12  8:52                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-12 14:37                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 12:39                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-12 19:31                                         ` Howard Melman
2020-11-12 20:02                                           ` ivy-posframe review - " Jean Louis
2020-11-11 14:09                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 15:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 16:05                             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 18:52                       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-11 19:10                         ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 19:49                           ` Drew Adams
2020-11-12  7:58                             ` martin rudalics
2020-11-11 19:51                           ` Drew Adams
2020-11-11 16:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 22:51                       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-13  8:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 12:56                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-13 13:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-13 13:44                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-13 13:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 10:25                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-16 17:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 17:41                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 18:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 11:51                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-17 14:05                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-13 19:27                             ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-17  8:59                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-13 20:18                           ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-14  6:17                             ` Ergus [this message]
2020-11-14 20:36                               ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-15  2:39                                 ` Ergus
2020-11-15 19:32                                   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 20:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06  5:52 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 12:40   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-06 12:59     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-08 20:28       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-08 20:50         ` Jean Louis
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2020-11-11 19:03                             ` Drew Adams
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2020-11-12 17:42                                                 ` Drew Adams

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