From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Relevance of `baud-rate' in the 2020s? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:13:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20201024091345.GA11449@tuxteam.de> References: <833625l9wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2jwm26j.fsf@linux-m68k.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3540"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 24 11:14:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kWFd8-0000pJ-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:14:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56856 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWFd7-0002D6-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 05:14:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWFcb-0001n7-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 05:13:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:45921) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWFcY-00007q-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 05:13:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=523ZFnGVQphLIpoAHNMvNFZ51cSxH94lDKheoXGsXw8=; b=dEmL8ZlOirT5kVsCR+Q3T3d3pQJPjHjIrwixIiyL27fn0Hj6yuNBYTEfMqlb9fpIBlHWSCtvMbKyxNS8re4pu1OckXuiLAqTPnG2/ykvkLwNVyAbONG9kbjzDE3pnGka9yOCF2pk4n1DTwQi57M9fOpbM8jATihi5Hd2XthRROn0/pgPpMb5ibEBHF4rriQ5q8eeQ7HBQQPHuABTp80hS/5hwRteUzxMmMZz9borZfh3f+AX97l66mRtJyPIcemq9Mq2PRSsUVGyuBJSHxft/M0H4qtEVxAFvAbdMTGOrm/i/xJ2oVkMOd5vhXQZ6qCBRMUzwMjhj6avYRyJH4cAeg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kWFcQ-0003Eo-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:13:46 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y2jwm26j.fsf@linux-m68k.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/24 05:13:46 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258407 Archived-At: --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:57:24AM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Okt 24 2020, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >=20 > > 19200 sounds as if your terminal and Emacs could figure out what they > > wanted. >=20 > 19200 is the fake value that is used by the graphical frames on X. 19200 was a very popular speed back then, when 9200 was too slow, the cables became shorter and "RS232" was tweaked and hacked to fit the PC landscape (short cables, lower voltage swing and things). Then modems became faster, because of more sophisticated modulation schemes and the last mile becoming shorter and shorter [1]. Ah, good ol' times :) Cheers [1] Miles don't become shorter. But as most customers live in densely populated areas, last mile providers discovered that the others "just don't exist" unless the government shells out money for them. Which is used for many other and Ponzi schemes... - t --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl+T8EkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaSjACeMwQjWfHgX53MTATThhcN8Rxk OIEAn1S4Ahx70G7UZlMFtAXo/wzUmjyr =lM/t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc--